Toyota Tacoma Engine Failure at 60k miles

If you’re in the Tacoma area or close, I’d check out TSL Automotive Specialist in Tacoma. He’ll give it to you straight on what you’ll need done with no BS. Highly recommend

 

op im sorry this happened to you .Many of us have been in this situation or worse.Heck i can even sit here and sympathize with you. The only thing you can do is keep fighting and do not give up!Either you sit on your hands and cry or get up and keep trying, no matter what happens its not the end of the world k

 

1. not everyone has the know how how on cars to do their own diagnostics.
   
2. Wait until after school and have your son learn how to diagnose this with you. Train the next generation of shade tree mechanic.
   
3. Sounds like you and your son can easily do the repair job yourselves… hope that’s what you did.
   
4. Don’t these numbers organize my text way better than
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6. This does?

 

1.sheesh your a hater
2.get a grip
3. Do your due diligence

 

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Anyone can check the oil and coolant. We are not talking about splitting the Uranium or Plutonium atom here to make nuclear energy. Good grief. Also, it doesn't take a nuclear physicist to question a $600 hose assembly and $1300 (10 hours +/-) of labor to change it. Just think about things and ask questions. Like can you give me the part number(s)? Can you send me pics of where it was leaking? Or what part failed? Can you email me a complete written diagnostic report? Can I come by and have somebody explain this to me while looking at the car with the hood up?
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"This looks really bad and you probably need a new engine". Have your head examined if you bend over and agree to a $16,000 repair bill based on THAT statement alone. WOW.
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If you reread my original reply above, I told him to "go to class" because - in a detail I did not provide above - a bunch of his friends were hanging around trying to help (they all park together in the same lot) and the bell was about to ring and the school resource officer (God Bless, an armed uniformed local cop assigned to the school every day) was rolling their way in his golf cart to break 'em all up.

Yes, I shared with him everything later. Although this was relatively minor, I also reinforced him being able to call me for ANYTHING, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE.
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My time was more valuable than the cost of this repair at this point in my career (life). I have a BendPak lift, and a semi-pro set of tools. I could've done it, but I chose to have the shop do it after I questioned, discussed, and negotiated appropriately and politely a win-win outcome.

Last but not least, I hope my sharing here in this forum does help others learn.

 

Just curious, what was the mileage when you bought the truck?

The manufacturer warranty does not end at 36 and 60,000, but 36 and 60,000+ the mileage at time of purchase.

 

Slap the engine back together change the waterpump trade it in.

Not sure how you could of did all that damage by stopping the truck.

I remember my ford thunderbird hyrdrolocked and all i did was change the water pump, flush radiator, radiator cap, and open up engine and changeout the gaskets.

 

has the maloik moved from the 2016/2017/s to the 2019's?....The Maloik (Malocchio) means "Evil Eye." Many Italians believe in il malocchio (often pronounced "maloik.") Part superstition, part tradition, it is the belief in the evil eye, placed on someone when someone else is jealous or envious of the other's good luck.

 

When I bought the truck the odometer was at 6 miles so still out of the 60k/5 year powertrain. Thanks for the idea though

 

OK - not to double post back-to-back - but it is CLEAR the very first post in this thread was just updated with critical and meaningful information that should have been included in the first place.

As a result, and nevertheless, my very candid comments:
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You pegged your engine temp gauge and had your Taco towed to a shop in Bellevue WA. That mechanic communicated the following:

Your mechanic in Bellevue, WA needs to improve his/her communication skills. That isn't a whole lot of help unless you know how to interpret this message. Excessive hydrocarbons are present in the vehicle. Like where? The back seat? The glove box? This goes hand-in-hand with asking questions (see above). Anyway................
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Here's what that person almost undoubtedly managed to figure out. Your truck wouldn't start by the time it got to him/her. No Crank, No Start. It wouldn't even turn over. Checked the battery and blah blah blah. Then, they plugged in a scan tool and got a P0301 DTC. Then, they popped the hood and found coolant all over your engine and all around the #1 cylinder. Then, they performed a "block test" of the coolant fluid in the radiator and discovered hydrocarbons (unburnt exhaust gas) in the coolant. This test is super common and turns the test fluid from yellow to blue. That is a classic diagnostic of a blown head gasket which can fill the adjacent cylinder(s) with coolant.

They might've tried to bar the engine over with a big wrench on the crank pulley as a confirmation of their diagnosis and were unable to do so. Thus, the statement your engine is hydro-locked. NO BUENO.

I'm guessing your oil was also milky, dirty, and low on the dipstick although that is not stated.

The mechanic could have removed the #1 spark plug, and been able to turn the engine over while it spit coolant out of the #1 spark plug hole. But didn't know to do so or bother to do so.

His/her POV. You got a dead cylinder. #1. Blown head gasket. Haven't diagnosed the cause (failed water pump & subsequent overheating or straight up head gasket failure), but your best bet is to get this to Toyota where they have the expertise to confirm my diagnosis and get you back on the road. I do oil changes and brake pads and evap system leaks, but not Toyota engine overhauls / exhanges especially considering your warranty circumstances.
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THIS IS ASOLUTELY WHAT HAPPENED AT YOU MECHANIC IN BELLEVUE WA.
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Then, you had it towed to the dealership in Beaverton OR where you bought it from. And they confirmed the exact same thing. Failed water pump, failed cylinder head gasket, #1 cylinder dead and full of fluid, no bueno.
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Extended warranties are a complete and total rip-off IMHO for this case study in this thread right here. Every part is considered a "wearable" component meaning it is not covered. Obviously brake pads and tires and clutches bulbs and belts are wearable and not covered. However, I would've though Toyota would warranty their water pump to 100k miles, but I guess not. Check your policy.
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Here's where I get critical and candid. There is still absolutely a reason Toyota is denying your extended warranty claim. One, they are going by the book. Period, end of discussion. Too bad for you. Life is not fair, and then you die.
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Two, this type of engine failure does not just instantaneously happen. Not on a modern Toyota V6 IMHO. I'm going to suggest THERE WERE WARNING SIGNS IN ADVANCE and they were probably ignored.

Toyota water pumps do not fail like this. They start leaking from the weep hole. They lose efficiency gradually. You get a Low Coolant Level warning light on the dash weeks, if not, months before a failure like this occurs.

I'm going to call a spade a spade and challenge the statement you had no dash lights in advance. The Toyota TechStream software is WICKED good and can determine exactly how long ago DTCs were first illuminated even if cleared by someone previously.

Even if the cylinder head gasket leak occurred first, and was causing coolant to leak into the #1 cylinder, you would've got a Check Engine Light and P0301 DTC misfire code weeks, if not months, before your #1 cylinder hydrolocked because the spark plug was getting wet & sprayed with coolant and not firing.

With a V6 cylinder engine misfire, your engine would have been shaking and virbrating like mad for weeks, if not months, before this type of failure.

I'm going to go out on a limb and also suggest the Toyota dealer drained your oil and found about 3 quarts of black sludge. And an oil filter cartridge full of metal shavings and particles. None of which happens in the few moments your coolant temp pegs out and you immediately pull over like a saint. This is additional evidence the dealer will use against you.
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You can agree or disagree, but when it comes to benevolent dealership support, these factors make a difference.

Has your Taco been serviced by the dealer? Or there is zero record of such? Are the tires bald, the brake pads squealing, and the interior filthy?

YES THEY JUDGE YOU

 

Case closed people. Move along. Nothing else to discuss.

 

lol who asked you to think for me , lol nobody

 

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Ugh, what a pain. Sorry to hear OP

 

OP repeatedly editing the original post as I’m reading this - at 3:50 a.m. !

In post #14, Vlady is responding to ‘milners16’, not H1Unlimited16.

No references to Bellevue / Beaverton in first post - at least not now.

 

99% chance we may never know. These types of posters dip in to complain, have no technical knowledge of the issue with their engines and then dip out without any final resolution. You may be right on a majority of your assumptions above.

I'm sitting at 58k on my 19'. I'm not going to sit around and worry about my warranty.

 

Because the a$$hole wasn't telling the truth from GO and got called out on it.

Thought he could come here and patronize everybody with "I'm the innocent victim of impeccable mainentenace" and "Woe is me" and "Toyota is so cold and cruel for not believing me" and.... LO AND BEHOLD ....the OP's bullchit was so far from the truth he skedaddled.

This ain't my first time figgering obvious stuff out.

 

Yeah - thought I was hallucinating or something, but the first post went from several paragraphs down to two, and now only one. Couldn’t figure out how you knew what dealership she bought her Taco from.

Anyway, excellent analysis. Enjoyed the show!