Where to buy new engine? 2.7

I'd love to, but where I live I have no garage or the time/knowledge to do it

 

Thanks for the info. I think my first option will be calling all local junkyards and hope to source something with less than 120k miles

 

Damn the Yota1 option would be great on my budget, but 24-26 week lead time!? This is my DD

 

It wasn't so bad when I ordered mine, in today's market I can see it being low on the options list because of time crunch.

 

I found these 2 options:

https://www.sunshinestatejdm.com/toyota/tacoma-3rz-fe-motors/7423

https://www.jdmcalifornia.com/product/toyota-tacoma-2-7l-3rz-jdm-engine/

Thoughts? Thanks

 

There are a few links in this thread that may be helpful.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/engine-supplier.658403/#post-25923683

 

DO NOT go this route. Assuming this is for your 98 correct? If so, you are in the same boat I was in when I rebuilt my engine. The 98-00 3rz has a dual spark coil pack ignition system, the engines you have linked are the coil on plug 3rzs from the 01-04 version. They have them labeled as 97-04 because, yes technically, they will bolt up the same to your engine mounts and transmission but your wiring harness will not be a direct fit, you would have to change pins around to get it to talk to your ECU the same. Not exceptionally difficult but not as easy as dropping in a direct replacement. If you were quoted 1800 for the install that does not include any electrical rework they may have to do if you get an 01-04 complete motor. You will not find a used JDM with the dual spark style from a reputable source, they don't have em to import from Japan.. I looked for a year and the only other version I occasionally saw was the distributor motor from the 95-97 3rz (which were also used in Toyota forklifts overseas for many years)


Your best bet would be to send it off to a reputable machine shop and have yours rebuilt. I bought a 98 4R with the 3rz for 200 bucks but that was because the previous owner royally fucked up a head gasket job and completely ruined the motor, I had a machine shop turn the crank and bore out all 4 cyls way oversized. I bought a new water pump and clutch kit from him and had to buy a new timing cover cause the oil pump galley was egg shaped, new harmonic balancer and front belt pulleys as well. Including all the gaskets and bearings but not included the cost of the aftermarket head I had them install, the machine shop charged me 2200 for all the other parts and machining/installation labor. 10k miles later and the thing still runs great

 

Thanks big time for this response. That's a bummer! So are you saying the distributor 3rz motor would be a direct link up with the correct coil pack? Here is one I've found:

https://jdmofsandiego.com/product/1...r-2-7l-engine-jdm-3rz-moto-3rzfe-distributor/

It seems like having a reputable machine shop rebuild my motor may be the best bet, but It's my DD, hoping for a quicker option. Do you think having my mechanic perform the electrical work to make the 01-04 work in my truck would be very expensive?

 

Sorry for the misunderstanding. No the distributor model will not work.

If it's your DD and the least amount of downtime is the most important thing to you, then you can get an 01-04 style motor and just pay your mechanic to swap over ALL sensors and electronics from your 98 over to the new motor, including the throttle body, air tube and MAF. That way your extra expenses would just be their time.

Understand that it's still technically a craps shoot that the JDM motor is problem free. At the very least I would pay extra time to the mechanic to remove the valve cover and adjust/check valve clearances. The exhaust valves tighten up over time and when they get too tight they burn through and then your paying for an expensive valve job


I would anticipate paying 2-3hrs of shop time for the mechanic to swap over parts and adjust the valves.

 

Is no one gonna say LCE?........Why not? Don't they have like 3 or 4 stages of longblocks for how many different Toyota motors? I'll go ahead and say it....L C E

 

Because they don't sell long or short blocks for the 3rz. Only a "master rebuild kit"

At least that's what they offer on their website, I've never called and talked to them personally

 

While the back end of the motor is open and easily accessible, I would pay to have the rear main seal replaced and get the flywheel resurfaced.

I've had 3 of these 3rz motors and every single one of them have been high mileage and none of them had leaky rear main seals.. but I've swapped em anyway because I hate the idea of going through the effort of changing a clutch and then having a leak when it's all back together. That happened to me once with a Ford 300 and I'll never make that mistake again lol


You should always have your flywheel resurfaced or replaced when changing a clutch.. again I've known people that will just slap a new clutch in, no concern, and be fine.. but I've never been that lucky

 

Great, thank you! Just to confirm, I can purchase this JDM 2.7 and have my mechanic swap over all the sensors and electronics and will be paying the extra labor? https://www.sunshinestatejdm.com/toyota/tacoma-3rz-fe-motors/7423

I think this would be my quickest bet. I also understand it is no guaranteed the JDM motor is problem-free. I will be sure to have the mechanic adjust/check valve clearances. I appreciate all your help!

 

Great advice, thank you! Making note of this and all other advice above for my mechanic

 

@gravgrip


Looking at that motor, yes, your mechanic should have no issues swapping over the electronics and accessories from your motor over to that one. Looking at the pictures closer I notice that the power steering pump on that motor uses some sort of external reservoir. Given the unknown application it was in (the Asia market used 3rzs in A LOT of things) I would recommend your mechanic swap EVERYTHING over from your motor.. I mean specifically the alternator and power steering pump, also all the front engine drive pulleys. Those pictures show no AC pump so if your truck has stock AC you'll need to take all that stuff off as well to swap over.


Does your truck have an EGR system? If so, that's good because that engine advertised already has that installed to it makes the swap easier

 

Okay cool, thank you. Will make note of this.

Not sure if it has an EGR system. I'll check that out tomorrow and find out

 

Open your hood and look for what is circled. Good chance yours will have a green sticker instead of blue

If it's there, that means you have an EGR system.... honestly I would be surprised if you do not

 

Yup I have it, in green! I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this. I'm going to run everything by my mechanic first. Thank you

 

This is my message to my mechanic:

"Hello, I have this engine I'm looking to purchase: https://www.sunshinestatejdm.com/toyota/tacoma-3rz-fe-motors/7423

It was recommended to me to have the following completed during the install for the JDM engine to properly communicate with my Tacoma:

• Swap over (from the existing engine) all sensors/electronics, throttle body, air tube, MAF, Alternator, AC, and power steering pump, front-drive pulleys
• Adjust/check valve clearances before install
• New clutch installed along with Flywheel Resurfaced
• Rear main seal replaced

Here is a link to our discussion: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/where-to-buy-new-engine-2-7.733932/

Thank you!"

Anything I missed? Thanks

 

Sounds good to me. Only other preventative maintenance that I would recommend (but not entirely necessary) would be for new belts and vacuum lines but that is something you can do yourself down the road and not have to pay the mechanic for