Westcott Designs Collar Lift

Good Afternoon! I was checking out the Westcott Designs collar lift and I was reading and they state it does not change the geometry of the suspension. Would the needle bearing and diff be okay with a collar lift? I am trying to get an explanation on how this type of lift will keep everything in its oem location in terms of the geometry of the suspension.

thanks!

 

It doesn’t.

 

That is what I am thinking too. If its preloaded like a coilover its going to move things around.

 

Yep. All they’re doing is preloading the coil, just like everyone else.

 

Its basically a spacer lift, it has a thicker collar that moves the spring up on the shock a little and preloads the spring. (Similar to 5100's with clips, but only one setting of course). And they include a .4ish top spacer for it. It lifts the truck about 1.5"

You could still have needle bearing issues on the driver's side because you are changing the angle of the CV axle. But you might be fine without changing it out. I did one for a customer and no vibes after. But down the road it might have a need to be replaced because they are just prone to go out over time anyway.

 

I guess ambiguous advertising isnt false advertising per-se.

But yeah avoid that junk.

 

I personally would go with that replacement spring for the the trd pro fox 2.5 shocks that achieve the same lift but it takes less work to install.

 

Thanks for your help guys. It seems like a “too good to be true” kind of thing. I had 5100s in my 2nd gen and liked them. I have been between the 5100s set at 1.1 and leaving the rear stock or 5100s at 1.5 and an aal. ECGS bushing would be installed as well.

I don’t do a lot of hauling and have maybe 100lbs in my bed 90% of the time. I do lite camping and no crazy trails, more of gravel/logging roads and beach trips. I dont see myself going full blown overlander…maybe one day when funds are freed up.

 

I know this is an old thread, but I am hoping someone will see this post. I am curious if anyone has tried running Bilstein 5100’s with the stock springs and the Westcott Designs preload collar for the 5100’s that they now make. I am considering getting 5100’s, but keep seeing that running OME 888’s leads to sagging and that OME 886’s are not recommended to run on the 5100’s. I am trying to get to 3” of lift up front and the Westcott Designs preload collar claims to do that with the 5100’s.

https://youtu.be/e3G-L0qB0R4

 

If u want a longer coil w a higher spring rate then eibach has one that works well. 2" on the 1st clip for height. Its a 700 pound spring. Dont bother with westcott for anything other than the pro fox shocks

 

They ride rough, one explaination is, pre-load aside, it sets the shock in the aggressive dampening range, rather than its normal resting range, so it rides very firm.

I despise the westcott lift, it ruins how pro's drive.

 

I appreciate you replying to me. Do you happen to know if the eibach springs can get you to 3” in the front? I ask because I have plans to install 35’s in the future. Of course after proper prepping with a cab mount chop or cab mount relocation kit as well as 5.29 gears. I first am just planning to run 285/75/16”.

Thank you for letting me know, I appreciate it.

 

I may be answering my own question here - However, what if you were looking to add preload to your OEM pro suspension if you went with say a bumper and winch up front. I imagine it would be closer to the resting damping range, but still quite a bit harsher than w/o the preload collar. Wondered what my options would be if I ever went down that road in the future.

 

Regaining lost ride height by adding preload is ok. In theory you would be getting the shock back to the stock riding position in its overall travel. I think no matter what you will feel a difference in ride quality. Added weight, more preload, stock valving etc.

 

Interesting… I have a set of Trd pro shocks and was considering getting the westcott lift kit for them but after reading this I’m not so sure? Does anyone have any real experience with them on their truck I’d like to hear your opinion.

 

I had the lift on my 4runner and it was perfectly fine...the ride quality wasn't diminished and it didn't ride rough...but it was more firm, which for me was ok. These set ups are all subjective...and for everyone person who hates one, you'll find someone who loves it.

 

I ran the Westcott kit on my tundra with Trd pro shocks. Yea, it did firm them up a lil but the ride was fine. Going to do the same with my 23’ taco pro. If that ends up different than the tundra ride, I’m going to swap out to Bilstein 8112 or fox elites..

 

Hoping to bring this thread back. I'm thinking about the following Westcott setup and would like some feedback. If you're not a fan of this setup, what would you do differently? Thank you!

 

At that point, I’d just go Bilstein 8112/8100 or fox performance elite and call it a day. Just make sure you use a Ekstrom 1/4” spacer on the drivers side if you have either at max height for the taco lean

 

Funny you say that as I have been seriously considering the 8112/8100 combo. What do you see as the pro’s to this vs. the setup in the quote? Have you run the 8112’s?