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Toyota towing

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Steve lewis, Jan 16, 2022.

  1. Jan 16, 2022 at 3:24 PM
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    Steve lewis

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    Hello opinions welcome
    I have a 2005 Toyota Tacoma trd v6 tow package. What is your opinion on pulling a 22ft 3500 double axle utility trailer. Towing a 2022 can am mx3 max x rs turbo. SXS stock weighs 1945. With upgrades 35’tires 3’lift I am thinking trailer and SXS weighing 4700 give or take would it be ok to pull both
     
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    I would find it less than enjoyable.
    If I had access to a bigger more powerful truck, I would take it.

    Other wise, I think you’ll find the truck pulls A LOT better around 3k RPM.
    Best of luck to you my friend.
     
  3. Jan 16, 2022 at 3:39 PM
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    Thank you, do you recommend a 16ft double axle trailer. The SXS is 13ft long. It’s one of those things I’ve always wanted but never was going to buy. I have 4 wheelers for my wife and I and our grandsons. I have bugged my wife by showing her pictures of the one I always wanted. I guess she got tired of seeing the pictures and me talking about for the past few yrs lol. So she took our son with her to order it without me knowing. She just told me Christmas hoping it will be here next month. It’s been ordered sense september
     
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    Tandem axle (double) will haul more and pull a little better.
    Almost all the tandem have electric brakes, and that is definitely a PLUS.

    I went with a single, because I can pick the front end up and physically move it some if needed.
    90% of my towing is landscape / wood hauling.

    Here is an example of what I’ve towed.
    This is not the most I’ve hauled. Wet, fresh cut timber is a lot heavier.
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    I agree that a larger truck would be idea but you should be ok with that weight. I recommend a trailer with brakes on both axles as it’ll really allow the trailer to do the braking it needs and alleviate stress on the tacoma.

    A scangauge is a good way to monitor transmission temperatures so you know to stop if you get too warm.

    You’ll also need a brake controller if you don’t already have one installed.
     
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    With stock tires around 4000-4500 is a reasonable max for a Tacoma so you'd be in the ballpark without the bigger tires. I'd be concerned about the power you'll have with 35's.

    You also need to watch your payload. Since you've modified the truck from stock the number printed on the payload sticker on your drivers door jamb is no longer valid. I'd weigh the truck and subtract its actual weight from the GVWR printed on the door. I wouldn't be surprised if you're around 1000 lbs, maybe less. A 4700 lb trailer will put over 600 lbs on your suspension. That won't leave much for you, any passengers and cargo in the truck.

    You could try it. At that weight I don't think it will be dangerous as long as you don't exceed GVWR. And if you have only a driver in the truck you may be able to make weight. I just don't think you'll have much power and if any mountains are involved, your engine is going to be working hard. The biggest concern is overheating the transmission. I believe your truck came with 3.73 gears. With the bigger tires you're closer to 3.28 now.
     
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    Getting full size truck vibes from this. Tacoma COULD do it but would it be the best way?...
     
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    You’ll be fine, they pull travel trailers weighing that much, what your going to tow is easier then that.
     
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    Sold our 24ft dual axle trailer that was 5,500 lbs loaded last spring. The truck towed it fine if you weren't afraid to make it work (60mph wound out in 2nd gear over the passes). It was tiring to tow so I typically limited a days driving to no longer than 4 or 5 hours. You definitely feel that big of a trailer behind the truck.

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    sounds like the same weight as all your stuff packed into the bed and a 5x10 uhaul box trailer when moving
     
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    Same setup as you. Saw a really nice trailer, not too aero. 3800 lbs. I know these trucks are tow rated much higher than that, but that's about all I would tow. Gotta leave a safety margin.
    Tacomas are great trucks until you hit the mountains. Double true when towing.
     
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    hills = hard
    + low power engine with no turbo, loses power at altitude
    small brakes

    would be cool if it was an iron block turbodiesel. Turbo for power and efficiency.
    Diesel has higher compression and more power energy contained within the liquid fuel itself. More torque and from lower RPM.

    But instead Toyota melted a bunch of recycled Pepsi cans (aluminum) and poured the hot metal into a cast for a V6 because it was cheaper

    just powerful enough to slowly merge onto the highway without any weight,
    but weak enough to feel slower when putting more inches on tire size without a regear or steel parts mounted to the truck
     
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    That is too much to tow safely, it will be almost impossible to not exceed rated payload once loaded up with gear, pets and peeps. Marked trailer sway is very likely. Transmission temps are also going to be a real problem, even small grades on hills will send the temps too high.
     
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    Pulling 22ft 3500 double axle. Weighs maybe 2400lbs. Towing a SXS weighs 2300lbs. 4500-4600lbs. Will Toyota be able to pull
     
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    Yes, BUT.......with few exceptions, a truck designed and manufactured for "towing" is better suited for the job. As stated earlier, (and beat to death on TW) the Tacoma is underpowered and will struggle on hills and at altitude. If all you are concerned about are tow ratings, hook up and go. I'm also guessing that your 17 year old truck has some mileage on it, which might be a consideration. Wear parts will wear more quickly if stressed with a 3000 lb load...... Consider, can you jog in a business suit, yes, but......can you go hiking in cowboy boots, yes, but.....
    can you ride a horse without a saddle, yes, but....... will it tow the trailer, yes, but...
     
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    Are you asking a different question or just had a technical issue? Plenty of answers in this thread already.
     
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    You will tow that no problem
     
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    Like @stickyTaco said,
    You can’t be afraid to run the engine hard. With 35” tires, you’re going to working it.

    You’ll understand once you hook to a trailer.
     
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    OP, you've added weight to your truck with the mods you've done. These mods have weight and will be part of your Cargo Capacity. In other words, your mods have reduced your Cargo Capacity.

    Suggest to have your truck weighed at a CAT scale. Look at the truck's GVCWR. Subtract the truck weight from the GVCWR. This is max Cargo and Trailer weight that you can tow while remaining within Toyota's tow capacity.

    To determine the Cargo Weight in your truck, you need to know the Original Weight of the truck (should be on driver door sticker). Subtract this from the CAT scale number, this is the weight of the added mods. Subtract this number from the max Cargo Capacity (same door sticker), this is your Cargo Capacity after your mods.

    Remember, the trailer tongue weight is counted in the Cargo Load.

    Strongly urge the use of a Brake Controller and to remain within the limits of the truck. In truth, you can probably pull more.....but the problem comes with braking and controlling the trailer. You don't want a "Tail wagging the Dog" situation.

    Good luck...
     

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