Toyo Open Country RT or MT???

Currently have Toyo Open Country ATII and absolutely HATE them. They fly all over the place when it's wet. The one good thing is that they have lasted me 52K miles and have gone from my '15 Taco to my new '17.

Now time to upgrade, so thinking to stay with Toyo but go either RT or MT.

Any info or first hand experience?

TYIA!

JF

 

Curious what size.

Never really been a fan of what Toyo offered but their sister company Nitto does have a some good offerings. I have about 6500 miles on the Ridge Grapplers and I’m very pleased with their characteristics. Much better than the KO2s I ran on another truck, a touch noisier but probably the same noise level of your ATII if they’re Extremes.

 

Could the 52,000 miles on them be the reason they 'fly all over when wet'??? No tread left??? Mine have been great, especially in the snow. Just put a new set on to replace ones that had about half the tread depth left (8-9/32).

 

How old are they? Tires tend to get harder with age. Which impacts wet traction.

 

I’ll tell you right now wet traction only gets worse with Mud Terrains so if you’re complaining about AT’s breaking traction, you’re in for a hell of a ride with MT’s.

 

Toyo AT2's are the best AT tire hands down. They are flying all over cause you have 52 k on them. They will slip a little brand new too, but they are AT tires, and you have compromises with them.

 

Well the M/Ts are tried and true, but weigh a crapton and will kill your mileage and give a power decrease because of the added rotating mass. The R/Ts have gotten some good reviews, and supposedly do well in the rain. Not sure how with those wide tread blocks but that's what everyone seems to be saying. They are roughly 8 pounds lighter than the M/Ts in the 265/75R16 size.

 

I'm running 265 /75 16 load range E Toyo Open Country Mud Terrains and have a little over 10k miles on them and they look in awesome condition .I've rotated then twice already and no cupping or uneven tire wear and I also keep the tire press at 30psi at all four corners

 

Unrelated to these tires, I have Mickey Thompson BAJA Mtz on my truck, perform very well in the rain, snow, mud, just about anything. I have 13K on them as of now and the tread looks like it will be lasting me a long time!

 

I’m subscribing to this - I’ve been looking at the MT and RT as well.
Lots of guys run the MTs on fullsize trucks up here - they last forever and are fantastic off road. Heavy as all hell though.
Can’t find many guys up here in BC who run the RT, they seem to be more common in the Southwest. Any one know how they handle wet roads?

 

Not to sure how the R/T handle in the rain because it never rains in SoCal

 

Haha - exactly!

 

Im lloking at thes RT to for a 255/80r17 they look good, im considering them more then the cooper STmaxx because some have tracking to the right problem with them.

 

I'm looking at getting some Open Country R/T 285/75/R16. Will they fit on stock 2010 with stock wheels?

 

Not without quite a bit of trimming. I’ve 265/75/16 st Maxx’s and they fill the fender well up

 

You would probably need wheel spacers at a minimum otherwise they will rub on the upper control arms. You will also probably rub on the body mount. I just noticed yesterday that Nitto came out with this tire size. It is E rated and is super heavy at 72lbs. I hope they make a C rated in this size.

 

I have researched a ton of M/T and aggressive A/T tires that should fit 16" or 17" wheel on stock 3rd gen TRD OR. I ride a lot of gravel and pasture, so I need something with better stone rejection and mud traction than the stock tires, but don't necessarily need a full on mud tire.

I prefer 16's because I hope to get SCS F5's in Matte Dark Bronze / 16x8 4.50" BS 6x139.7, or fall back to stock wheels if budget is tight. I only have 16.5K on the truck right now, so don't need new tires just yet.

Top of my list thus far:
Toyo Open Country RT LT265/75R16 E 31.9" diameter and 53 lbs (quite light for an E-rated tire)

Full specs, plus weight:
https://www.toyotires.com/tire-finder/16/32
https://www.toyotires.com/tire-finder/17/32

Here's a list of compatible tires and maybes, with weights where I could find or request, ranked by my non-scientific preference:

Stock tire: Goodyear Adventure Kevlar 265/70R16 SL 30.6 (682 revs/mi) 42 lbs

16's

1. Toyo Open Country RT LT265/75R16 E 31.9 53 lbs
2. Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Kevlar 265/75R16 E 54.5 lbs
3. Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 265/75R16 31.7 44 lbs
4. Maxxis Razr MT 265/75R16 E 31.9 - 57 lbs
5. Toyo Open Country M/T LT265/75R16 E 32 61lbs heavy
6. Yokohoma Geolandar MT G003 265/75R16 (E) 30.5 682 - equivalent size tire but 55lbs
7. Nitto Trail Grappler LT265/75R16 E 123P 31.9 62lbs whoah heavy
8. Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 265/70R16 30.6 42 lbs
9. Falken Wildpeak M/T LT245/75R16 E 30.4 55 lbs
10. Falken Wildpeak M/T LT265/75R16 E 32 60 lbs
11. Hercules Terra Trac M/T LT265/75R16/10 E 31.73
    
12. Hercules Ironman All Country LT265/75R16/10 E 31.89 - cheap, good offroad, review says super loud on hiway
13. Goodyear Duratrac 265/70R16 SL 30.6

17s

1. Yokohoma Geolandar MT G003 LT255/75R17 111/108 Q (C) 32.3 48.7 lbs - lighter, better for weight of truck, size just a hair too big
2. Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Kevlar 265/70R17 E 55 lbs
3. Toyo Open Country M/T LT255/75R17 C 32 57 lbs
4. Nitto Trail Grappler LT255/75R17 C 32.1 54.5 - heavy for C-rated
5. Nitto Ridge Grappler LT265/70R17 - C 31.89 54.67
6. Falken Wildpeak M/T LT255/75R17 (C) 32.3 53 lbs - slightly too big
7. Maxxis Razr MT 265/70R17 E 31.8
8. Falken Wildpeak M/T LT265/70R17 E 31.7 56.9 lbs
9. Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 255/70R17 31.1 42
10. Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 265/70R17 31.7 47
11. Hercules Ironman All Country LT265/70R17/10 E 31.89
12. Hercules Terra Trac M/T LT265/70R17/10 E 31.73
13. BF Goodrich Mud Terrain T/A KM2 255/75R17 C 32.05 49.25 lbs
14. Goodyear Duratrac 255/75R17 SL 32.0
15. Goodyear Duratrac 265/70R17 SL 31.7

 

Cepek extreme country 265/75/15, 48lbs

 

I’ve got the RTs, with just about 10K mi:
They’re about the same as the KO2 in the rain, and probably not as good - IMO the differences are negligable and it depends how heavy your foot is.

The RTs are about halfway between AT and MT tires as far as tread spacing goes. Like they’ve said above, it only gets worse from an AT.

The pros of the RT:
1. Great for those who are on road mostly and occasionally want to play in the mud.
2. They don’t wear as fast as MT
3. They aren’t as loud on the highway as MT (and some AT) - I don’t even notice the noise.
4. They look BADASS