1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Tow hitch wiring harness not working

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by tfasbind, Apr 3, 2021.

  1. Apr 3, 2021 at 4:41 PM
    #1
    tfasbind

    tfasbind [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2014
    Member:
    #140041
    Messages:
    27
    Gender:
    Male
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    02 Prerunner V-6
    Hello,

    I installed a tow hitch to tow a small utility trailer on my 02 Tacoma Prerunner that previously did not have a tow package. Now I am trying to install a 4 pin wiring harness and can't get it to work properly. I bought a Kurt 55379 harness which plugs right into the existing wiring harnesses (no splicing).

    Installation was straight forward (basically plug and play), but the trailer turn signals and brake lights do not work when connected to this new harness. Running lights are fine. The Tacoma lights all function properly.

    I plugged one of those 4 pin testers into the new harness and it gives me the same results............running lights light the indicator, but turn signals and brake lights do not.

    Then I tried disconnecting the Tacoma taillights and just had the new harness connected. At that point (with the taillights removed) the turn signals and brake lights would light the 4 pin tester.

    I also tested the trailer lights with a 12volt source on each of the three power pins and all lights seemed to work properly.

    Any ideas whats going on???
     
  2. Apr 4, 2021 at 5:46 AM
    #2
    Tacoma Mike

    Tacoma Mike 48 Year Chrysler/Toyota/ASE/ Master Tech.RETIRED

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Member:
    #61230
    Messages:
    31,133
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Southern Maine
    Vehicle:
    2011 Double Cab V6 1995 Bass Tracker
    Large Storage Box, 02610 intermittent switch swap, "Hot Wire" Power Outlets, DRL Shut Off, Disable Fob Beep, Disable Seat Belt Buzzers, Parking Light Mod, Battery Tender, 4 Leaf Spring Pack, Rear Headrest Removal, Factory Tow Package (7 Pin) Rear Diff Mod, Taco Lean Mod, 2WD Low ECU.
    Sounds like you either have a bad ground for the converter box
    Or the box is bad.
    Or your aux power for the converter is not there..
    Double check what you did and if it looks ok
    Get another harness and box
     
    Dm93 and 6 gearT444E like this.
  3. Apr 4, 2021 at 9:36 AM
    #3
    tfasbind

    tfasbind [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2014
    Member:
    #140041
    Messages:
    27
    Gender:
    Male
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    02 Prerunner V-6
    The ground for the converter box tested fine. Do you know of a way to test the converter box on the bench with either a multi-meter or a power probe?
     
  4. Apr 4, 2021 at 1:34 PM
    #4
    BuddyS

    BuddyS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2013
    Member:
    #116514
    Messages:
    986
    Gender:
    Male
    Maryland
    Vehicle:
    2013 TRD Sport 4x4 MT
    Funny, I'm having the same problem with my 2013 (with tow package) and a 4-pin connecter running through an adapter plugged into the hitch connector. Running lights work fine but no brake lights or turn signals. Did you find a solution?
     
  5. Apr 4, 2021 at 7:43 PM
    #5
    Dm93

    Dm93 Test Don't Guess

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Member:
    #150066
    Messages:
    12,668
    Gender:
    Male
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2014 DC OR 6spd 4x4
    Predator tube steps, Ranch Hand grill guard, Magnaflow CatBack exhaust, Toyota tool box & bed mat, 2LO Module by @Up2NoGood, Rearview Compass/Temp Mirror, Tune by @JustDSM.
    Have you checked your towing fuses? Since you have the tow package the trailer plug has separate fuses from the truck lights.
     
  6. Apr 5, 2021 at 2:15 AM
    #6
    Tacoma Mike

    Tacoma Mike 48 Year Chrysler/Toyota/ASE/ Master Tech.RETIRED

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Member:
    #61230
    Messages:
    31,133
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Southern Maine
    Vehicle:
    2011 Double Cab V6 1995 Bass Tracker
    Large Storage Box, 02610 intermittent switch swap, "Hot Wire" Power Outlets, DRL Shut Off, Disable Fob Beep, Disable Seat Belt Buzzers, Parking Light Mod, Battery Tender, 4 Leaf Spring Pack, Rear Headrest Removal, Factory Tow Package (7 Pin) Rear Diff Mod, Taco Lean Mod, 2WD Low ECU.
    He doesn’t have a tow package.
    Installing aftermarket.
     
  7. Apr 5, 2021 at 2:30 AM
    #7
    Tacoma Mike

    Tacoma Mike 48 Year Chrysler/Toyota/ASE/ Master Tech.RETIRED

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Member:
    #61230
    Messages:
    31,133
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Southern Maine
    Vehicle:
    2011 Double Cab V6 1995 Bass Tracker
    Large Storage Box, 02610 intermittent switch swap, "Hot Wire" Power Outlets, DRL Shut Off, Disable Fob Beep, Disable Seat Belt Buzzers, Parking Light Mod, Battery Tender, 4 Leaf Spring Pack, Rear Headrest Removal, Factory Tow Package (7 Pin) Rear Diff Mod, Taco Lean Mod, 2WD Low ECU.
    Better off checking your inputs etc directly on the truck.
    You would almost have to make a harness and power it correctly for a bench test.
    Way to much work.

    The box isn’t switching from 4 bulb to 2 bulb.
    If your truck work’s correct without that hooked up.
    And you have good ground
    And the box has aux power
    And it’s plug and play.
    it should work.
    If not
    You missed something
    Or it’s defective

    I’m not there
    Can’t help you much more than this
     
  8. Apr 5, 2021 at 2:35 AM
    #8
    Tacoma Mike

    Tacoma Mike 48 Year Chrysler/Toyota/ASE/ Master Tech.RETIRED

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Member:
    #61230
    Messages:
    31,133
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Southern Maine
    Vehicle:
    2011 Double Cab V6 1995 Bass Tracker
    Large Storage Box, 02610 intermittent switch swap, "Hot Wire" Power Outlets, DRL Shut Off, Disable Fob Beep, Disable Seat Belt Buzzers, Parking Light Mod, Battery Tender, 4 Leaf Spring Pack, Rear Headrest Removal, Factory Tow Package (7 Pin) Rear Diff Mod, Taco Lean Mod, 2WD Low ECU.
    If you have a factory tow package and going from 7 to 4 with a adapter you do have fuses in the under hood fuse box...
     
  9. Apr 5, 2021 at 4:08 AM
    #9
    BuddyS

    BuddyS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2013
    Member:
    #116514
    Messages:
    986
    Gender:
    Male
    Maryland
    Vehicle:
    2013 TRD Sport 4x4 MT
    Thanks guys. I hooked up to a buddy's trailer and got the same issue so it does seem to be with the truck/adapter and not the trailer. Going to get back at this little mystery today once the auto parts store opens. I checked the fuses and they looked OK, but I'm going to try replacing them anyway and double-checking to see if there are any that I missed. Also going to try a different 7-4 adapter.
     
    Tacoma Mike[QUOTED] likes this.
  10. Apr 5, 2021 at 3:36 PM
    #10
    BuddyS

    BuddyS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2013
    Member:
    #116514
    Messages:
    986
    Gender:
    Male
    Maryland
    Vehicle:
    2013 TRD Sport 4x4 MT

    So I replaced every fuse I could find that seemed related to towing, and I pulled and checked every other fuse. Still no luck. Does the 2nd get have some additional third secret fuse box somewhere with towing fuses?

    Also, a thought. My battery is 5 years old; could it be a weakening battery issue?
     
  11. Apr 6, 2021 at 1:32 AM
    #11
    Wyoming09

    Wyoming09 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2015
    Member:
    #153833
    Messages:
    14,277
    Gender:
    Male
    New Tripoli Pa
    Vehicle:
    2000 Work truck 5 speed 4x4 3.4
    Super Springs
    Something defective with the new Converter box or the 4 pin plug .

    if all the truck lights were working.
     
    BuddyS likes this.
  12. Apr 6, 2021 at 3:48 AM
    #12
    BuddyS

    BuddyS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2013
    Member:
    #116514
    Messages:
    986
    Gender:
    Male
    Maryland
    Vehicle:
    2013 TRD Sport 4x4 MT
    Agreed, thanks. I've tried 2 different converters now so it's probably not that. I think I try replacing the relay next; if it's not that I hate to say it but there may be a dealer trip in my future. Need to get this fixed.
     
  13. Apr 6, 2021 at 3:22 PM
    #13
    tfasbind

    tfasbind [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2014
    Member:
    #140041
    Messages:
    27
    Gender:
    Male
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    02 Prerunner V-6
    This thing is driving me a little cookoo!
    I tried a bunch of testing today. Here are my results.........

    With the trailer disconnected from the 4-pin connector and the following color coding....
    White: ground
    Brown: Running lights
    Yellow: left turn/stop
    Green: right turn/stop

    the following measurements were made at the 4-pin connector:
    with no lights turned on with running lights on Rt. turn signal on Lt. turn signal on
    W:Ground Ground Ground Ground
    B:Ground 13.7 v .2v pulsing .2v pulsing
    Y:Open Open Open 12.1v pulsing
    G:Open Open 12.7v pulsing open

    Then I connected a pair of tail lights to the 4 pin connector. Running lights worked fine with light switch on.
    Now,(with running lights turned off) if I activate rt. turn signal I get nothing but if I disconnect the Green wire (rt. signal) while rt. signal is activated, then reconnect the green wire, my rt. signal works.
    I can turn right signal off then back on and it works but if I turn the left signal on then back to the right......it no longer works!!!

    HELP!!!!!!
     
  14. Apr 6, 2021 at 11:40 PM
    #14
    Wyoming09

    Wyoming09 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2015
    Member:
    #153833
    Messages:
    14,277
    Gender:
    Male
    New Tripoli Pa
    Vehicle:
    2000 Work truck 5 speed 4x4 3.4
    Super Springs
    If all the lights work on the truck Do They??

    It can only be the Converter Box or the wiring between the truck Harness and the 4 pin plug .


    No matter how many converter boxes you have replaced something is still not correct.

    Good Luck!!
     
  15. Apr 8, 2021 at 8:29 AM
    #15
    tfasbind

    tfasbind [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2014
    Member:
    #140041
    Messages:
    27
    Gender:
    Male
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    02 Prerunner V-6
  16. Apr 8, 2021 at 12:39 PM
    #16
    BuddyS

    BuddyS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2013
    Member:
    #116514
    Messages:
    986
    Gender:
    Male
    Maryland
    Vehicle:
    2013 TRD Sport 4x4 MT
    First, OP, apologies for muddling into your trailer lights thread - I certnaly didn't mean to higjack anything here, and I hope the new harness fixes your issue. But I would like to post the solution to my issue here in case future TW people search this topic and my solution can be of help.

    To recap, I was using a 7-4 converter but only the tail lights on the trailer would work. No brake lights, no hazards, no turn signals. I checked every fuse, swapped relays, and even checked the tabs on the hitch harness for current. Nothing helped. So I took it to the dealer and they basically had to tear out interior panels and follow the harness underneath the truck from the firewall to the hitch. They found a few places where there was corrosion on some connectors and cleaned things up (and maybe spliced... who knows?) as needed. All is working now. Sucks that I had to spend $360 at the dealer, but I was at the end of my rope with it and out of ideas. I will say the dealer treated me well and I never felt like they were going to gouge me for the work. It was an honest 3-4 hours of their time to get it done.
     
  17. Apr 9, 2021 at 4:54 PM
    #17
    tfasbind

    tfasbind [OP] Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2014
    Member:
    #140041
    Messages:
    27
    Gender:
    Male
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Vehicle:
    02 Prerunner V-6
    BuddyS no problem......we're all friends here.
    And YAHOO!!!!! the new harness fixed the problem for me!!!! Now it's Trumer Pils time!
     
    6 gearT444E and BuddyS like this.
  18. Apr 9, 2021 at 7:37 PM
    #18
    BuddyS

    BuddyS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2013
    Member:
    #116514
    Messages:
    986
    Gender:
    Male
    Maryland
    Vehicle:
    2013 TRD Sport 4x4 MT
    Sweet -- Congrats!
     
  19. May 2, 2021 at 4:48 PM
    #19
    Greg-tacoma

    Greg-tacoma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2020
    Member:
    #350088
    Messages:
    1,037
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Greg
    Vehicle:
    2016 Black 4cyl 4wd
    Bed cover, soon bug deflector, halo interior lights and backup
    Congrats. BUT. You’re telling me Toyota has a corrosion issue with the factory installed cable harness and you had to pay for them to fix their poor manufacturing. Humm. I’d write Toyota and get a refund. You may also look for a maintenance bulletin. You can also contact the federal government https://www.nhtsa.gov file a complaint. It will help us all
     
  20. May 3, 2021 at 6:54 AM
    #20
    JEEPNIK

    JEEPNIK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2020
    Member:
    #326895
    Messages:
    1,716
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2020 Voodoo Blue TRD Sport
    19 yo truck. Toyota can’t be held responsible for corrosion on any part after that long. Heaven only knows where that truck has been.
     
    Wyoming09 likes this.

Products Discussed in

To Top