1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Touched up trim, happy so far.

Discussion in 'Detailing' started by CPS-65, Jun 21, 2022.

  1. Jun 21, 2022 at 10:06 AM
    #1
    CPS-65

    CPS-65 [OP] I’m good for some, but I’m not for everyone.

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2019
    Member:
    #298190
    Messages:
    792
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Alta Loma, CA
    Vehicle:
    2019 Quicksand TRD Off Road 4X4
    Mostly old man mods
    Some of my black plastic trim on my tonneau eau was looking a little oxidized. I remembered I had some trim restorer my son gave me which came from one of his suppliers as samples. Tried it out last weekend and I am pretty impressed so far. We’ll see how it wears over time. It did a great job on my tonneau, but did an even better job on my wife’s JK top. This product came from Solution Finish. It’s an ounce or so of product, but it goes a really long way. This stuff looks like India Ink, and reminds me of when I was a draftsman working in ink on Mylar. It seems to work well and that small bottle did my small area on my tonneau and the JK’s entire top, plus the mirrors and door handles. The JK had a lot of oxidation on top and anything I ever used only brought it back moderately. This stuff brought it to a deep black. It looks better than new. I pressure washed, then soap cleaned everything I treated. Then it was all wiped down with rubbing alcohol as per manufacturer’s instructions. I applied it with a small pad working it in thoroughly, let it sit, and wiped any excess.
    This stuff can be a little messy, So gloves are a must and it should be applied from the top down or center out so you don’t drag any clothing across it.
     
    big_jarv, scofflaw, hemitruk and 3 others like this.
  2. Jun 22, 2022 at 7:06 AM
    #2
    Rocketball

    Rocketball If The World Didn't Suck, We'd All Fall Off

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2009
    Member:
    #14869
    Messages:
    2,111
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Scott
    Westminster, MD
    Vehicle:
    08 Speedway Blue DC Sport 4x4
    Pioneer head unit, PAC steering wheel control modual, Hard wired Sirius radio, Hard wired radar detector, Hella Supertone horns, Blacked out badges, Smoked Tails, BHLM (color matched Speedway Blue), T-Rex Eyelids, Black Powder Coated Billet Grill, Color Matched Engine Cover, Lund in channel vent visors, FJ Cruiser wheels, Leer 100XQ shell, OEM bed mat, Piezo beeper for locking doors, Tinted front side windows, Black Westin bull bar, Aires tube steps, Mini Maglite Mod, D-Cell Maglite Mod, Weathertech Digifit Floor Mats
    Solution Finish is good stuff, and I have used it on my 08 Sport with decent results, but it will fade over time. It is definitely better than any type of "dressing". Last year I tried Cerakote Trimcoat and was blown away. It's super easy to apply, and the packaging says it's good for 200 washes. So far it's out performing Solution Finish. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SHJVK4G/?coliid=I2E9W4ZFJ7D9JF&colid=1GCM1RES280OS&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
     
    Venom, ace96 and CPS-65[OP] like this.
  3. Jun 22, 2022 at 7:56 AM
    #3
    CPS-65

    CPS-65 [OP] I’m good for some, but I’m not for everyone.

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2019
    Member:
    #298190
    Messages:
    792
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Alta Loma, CA
    Vehicle:
    2019 Quicksand TRD Off Road 4X4
    Mostly old man mods
    Good to know, I think I’ll try that next time. The roof on my wife’s JK is hard to keep looking good. The plastic on my OR seems to be holding up well so far, the Jeep top seems to be more prone to oxidation.
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2022
  4. Jun 24, 2022 at 3:16 PM
    #4
    Maggman

    Maggman Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2022
    Member:
    #398147
    Messages:
    10
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    Vehicle:
    2018 tacoma trd
    Has anyone tried painting the factory hard tonneau, mine is fading and thinking about painting it.
     
    ExGunner likes this.
  5. Aug 27, 2022 at 5:38 PM
    #5
    ExGunner

    ExGunner Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2017
    Member:
    #235239
    Messages:
    230
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Paul
    Vehicle:
    2017 Tacoma TRD Sport Blue

    I was debating the same thing. I was thinking of Using a spray on Bedliner on it though. I have the Tacoma hard cover from Toyota and its already a textured surface. Its either bedliner or CERAKOTE Ceramic Trim Coat that i'll use. still debating.
     
  6. Aug 27, 2022 at 9:56 PM
    #6
    CPS-65

    CPS-65 [OP] I’m good for some, but I’m not for everyone.

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2019
    Member:
    #298190
    Messages:
    792
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Alta Loma, CA
    Vehicle:
    2019 Quicksand TRD Off Road 4X4
    Mostly old man mods
    If it is plastic, bed liner does not adhere well to it. From my understanding, it has to be encapsulated to keep from peeling. If you look at the Jeep in the first post, I had the (plastic) fenders line-x sprayed. They are encapsulated. They look really good and I have had no problems with them. They stay shiny black and clean up easily. Jeep should have made the fenders like this.
     
    ExGunner[QUOTED] likes this.
  7. Aug 28, 2022 at 5:54 AM
    #7
    Venom

    Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2019
    Member:
    #308773
    Messages:
    6,021
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Massachusetts
    Will adding a ceramic trim coating over the Solution Finish make it durable or will trim coating will not bond well to the dye?
     
  8. Aug 28, 2022 at 6:53 AM
    #8
    Rocketball

    Rocketball If The World Didn't Suck, We'd All Fall Off

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2009
    Member:
    #14869
    Messages:
    2,111
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Scott
    Westminster, MD
    Vehicle:
    08 Speedway Blue DC Sport 4x4
    Pioneer head unit, PAC steering wheel control modual, Hard wired Sirius radio, Hard wired radar detector, Hella Supertone horns, Blacked out badges, Smoked Tails, BHLM (color matched Speedway Blue), T-Rex Eyelids, Black Powder Coated Billet Grill, Color Matched Engine Cover, Lund in channel vent visors, FJ Cruiser wheels, Leer 100XQ shell, OEM bed mat, Piezo beeper for locking doors, Tinted front side windows, Black Westin bull bar, Aires tube steps, Mini Maglite Mod, D-Cell Maglite Mod, Weathertech Digifit Floor Mats
    I have no idea, but Solution Finish does have a topper product available.
     
    Venom[QUOTED] likes this.
  9. Aug 28, 2022 at 11:08 AM
    #9
    burrito782

    burrito782 Shit Throwing Ape

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2014
    Member:
    #136771
    Messages:
    940
    Vehicle:
    08 TRD Off Road
    I sure wouldn't do it for the reason you mentioned (or at the very least double check with Solution Finish and Cerakote). Those "permanent" style trim coatings (i.e. ceramic, nano polymers, etc.) are meant to bond directly to the original substrate surface (plastic). I would try my best to ensure that the Solution Finish is cleaned/removed before applying.
     
    Venom[QUOTED] likes this.
  10. Aug 29, 2022 at 4:28 AM
    #10
    Venom

    Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2019
    Member:
    #308773
    Messages:
    6,021
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Massachusetts
    Solution Finish topper coat must bond to a dyed surface.

    Just look at The Rag Company website. The top coat doesn't seems like a ceramic based product. Ceramics are picky to what they bond to.

    It's kind of expensive $25 for 4OZ.
     
  11. Aug 29, 2022 at 4:34 AM
    #11
    Venom

    Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2019
    Member:
    #308773
    Messages:
    6,021
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Massachusetts
    I read on detailing forums that people are using ceramics over Solution Finish. I never followed up on their outcome on durability. I read Solution Finish last around a year untreated. I also read that some people are using 303 Protectant, or Ceramic spray wax to help with longevity.

    If have to use Solution Finish, I would like to try GTechniq C4 trim coating as a over coat.
     
    burrito782[QUOTED] and ace96 like this.
  12. Aug 29, 2022 at 5:22 AM
    #12
    dwcfastrice

    dwcfastrice Bacon makes everything better.

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2021
    Member:
    #352627
    Messages:
    794
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Southeast PA
    Vehicle:
    2007 Silver Mica DCSB
    So far: 2.5" Icon Lift, Steel Front bumper, steel rear bumper, Cali Raised Bed Stiffener, 12Volt.Solutions remote start, Stereo upgrade, A Pillar Ram Mounts, BAMF Behind the grill light mount with Sylania 20" bar; KB Voodoo Max 22" Rack, CVT Awning, Decked drawer system, pod lights
    Do you all know if this works on the rubber trim around the rear window or just on plastics?

    thanks in advance.

    Dave
     
  13. Aug 29, 2022 at 5:36 AM
    #13
    Venom

    Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2019
    Member:
    #308773
    Messages:
    6,021
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Massachusetts
    According to The Rag Company description it does.

    Copy and paste from Rag Company website

    Solution Finish Black Trim Restorer restores black surfaces to a deep, rich finish, without any "wet look" or shine. This unique formula combines ancient ingredients with advanced polymer technology to provide a spectacular, long-lasting, black, protective finish. Use it to restore, condition, and protect bumpers, pads, trim, mirrors, mud flaps, window trim, seals, running boards, truck bed caps and covers, handles, wiper blades, etc. Another big plus with Solution Finish is that it is formulated for professional use, meaning it is a silicone-free solution that uses all natural oils and is VOC compliant. If you are looking for a great
     
  14. Aug 29, 2022 at 5:47 AM
    #14
    Rocketball

    Rocketball If The World Didn't Suck, We'd All Fall Off

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2009
    Member:
    #14869
    Messages:
    2,111
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Scott
    Westminster, MD
    Vehicle:
    08 Speedway Blue DC Sport 4x4
    Pioneer head unit, PAC steering wheel control modual, Hard wired Sirius radio, Hard wired radar detector, Hella Supertone horns, Blacked out badges, Smoked Tails, BHLM (color matched Speedway Blue), T-Rex Eyelids, Black Powder Coated Billet Grill, Color Matched Engine Cover, Lund in channel vent visors, FJ Cruiser wheels, Leer 100XQ shell, OEM bed mat, Piezo beeper for locking doors, Tinted front side windows, Black Westin bull bar, Aires tube steps, Mini Maglite Mod, D-Cell Maglite Mod, Weathertech Digifit Floor Mats
    I used Solution Finish on my 2008 Sport. I did two applications about 3 weeks apart. It was ok, but I wasn't completely satisfied with the look although it was worlds better than what it was. After about 6 months, I put Cerakote Trimcoat over it and it was fantastic! It's been over a year now and it still looks like the day day I put it one, and it's still beading water.
     
    Venom likes this.
  15. Aug 29, 2022 at 6:19 AM
    #15
    Venom

    Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2019
    Member:
    #308773
    Messages:
    6,021
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Massachusetts
    I tried magic eraser on trim before for a good cleaning. While it didn't restore the new look but it was a lot better.

    My neighbor has a 1st Gen Tacoma. The flares are badly sun damage. It doesn't matter what he tried it don't last. Painting it will be his last option.
     
  16. Aug 29, 2022 at 6:37 AM
    #16
    dwcfastrice

    dwcfastrice Bacon makes everything better.

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2021
    Member:
    #352627
    Messages:
    794
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Southeast PA
    Vehicle:
    2007 Silver Mica DCSB
    So far: 2.5" Icon Lift, Steel Front bumper, steel rear bumper, Cali Raised Bed Stiffener, 12Volt.Solutions remote start, Stereo upgrade, A Pillar Ram Mounts, BAMF Behind the grill light mount with Sylania 20" bar; KB Voodoo Max 22" Rack, CVT Awning, Decked drawer system, pod lights
    Outstanding. Thank you. Funny that they're using "ancient ingredients". I wonder what that secret sauce is.

    Will be ordering some today. Just took the cap off my 07 and the back window trim is all jacked up.
     
    Venom[QUOTED] likes this.
  17. Aug 29, 2022 at 12:13 PM
    #17
    burrito782

    burrito782 Shit Throwing Ape

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2014
    Member:
    #136771
    Messages:
    940
    Vehicle:
    08 TRD Off Road
    I guess ultimately my whole take on this is if you ever use (which I have) any of these "permanent" trim coatings like a GTechniq C4, Cerakote, Wipe New, etc. you'll quickly realize all of the other temporary dressings are just a waste of time. Also, those permanent coatings are meant to be applied to a clean & degreased surface, so I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone would want to put something like Solution Finish, which is loaded with oils, on the surface beforehand.
     
    Venom[QUOTED] likes this.
  18. Aug 29, 2022 at 3:23 PM
    #18
    Venom

    Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2019
    Member:
    #308773
    Messages:
    6,021
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Massachusetts
    GTechniq C4 is a restorer by itself. It doesn't darken as much as Solution Finish.

    This video may help.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzOz88Lh8_8
     
    burrito782[QUOTED] likes this.
  19. Aug 29, 2022 at 4:38 PM
    #19
    burrito782

    burrito782 Shit Throwing Ape

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2014
    Member:
    #136771
    Messages:
    940
    Vehicle:
    08 TRD Off Road
    Yes, coatings like GTechniq C4, Cerakote, Wipe New, etc. are indeed trim restorers. Their end result finish appearance can differ in darkness and like you mentioned they're not as dark as Solution Finish with its black dye (or whatever is in its "proprietary formula"). That being said, I was always more than satisfied with the finish of those aforementioned trim restorers, which is why I was shunning the temporary dressings earlier. But I guess what you're getting at (and was probably lost on me earlier) is for the particular case where you're wanting that darker black appearance using SF, but also wanting to extend its longevity by applying a ceramic coating over it.
     
    Venom[QUOTED] likes this.
  20. Aug 30, 2022 at 4:37 AM
    #20
    Venom

    Venom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2019
    Member:
    #308773
    Messages:
    6,021
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Massachusetts
    From reading online. This is what I gather.

    Ceramic products penetrate the surface. This is why they last longer than sealants. If a plastic has dye on the surface and doesn't let the ceramic product penetrate into the plastic then they'll be issues. This is why a clean surface is important.

    Their more to this than I know. It's been years since I read up on how ceramic detailing products works.
     
    burrito782[QUOTED] likes this.

Products Discussed in

To Top