Torque Atermarket wheels?

I got some Method wheels and was wondering what torque specs everyone used on the aftermarket wheels? The gentleman that installed my wheels said 83lbs for factory wheels with the washer but he thought it was more for aftermarket wheels but never told me a spec. He torqued mine to 90lbs so I was wondering what everyone torqued there wheels too.

 

If no torque is given by the manufacturer, I use the standard industry chart to determine torque spec. 83 is the factory spec as determined by the stud size.

I use anti seize on studs, so I lower the torque wrench 23% as per the standard 20-25% reduction recommendation for a lubricated fastener. So I torque to 62 lbs ft

 

Seriously? 62lbs/ft? I’ve been around for a while and I’ve never heard of that before.
It’s your truck so you can do what you want but that math sounds sketchy to me for wheel nuts on a vehicle....

OP, I’d use Toyota’s specs or contact the wheel manufacturer...

 

85 ft lbs. If yours were torqued to 90 then leave it, it will be fine.

You should see what most mechanic shops torque them to. 6 ugga duggas of the impact which is always over 100 ft lbs.

 

He is correct when using anti seize. Anti seize makes it easier to thread the nut to the point where it achieves the required clamping force. Meaning you will reach that point about 20-25% more quickly. That results in lowering the torque spec by about that much, which is what he did.

If sticking to the Toyota spec (which is perfectly fine), then you’d keep the spec at 83 but you’d only want to install them dry. Installing with anti seize and torquing to 83 would risk overstressing the studs.

 

Coming from a guy who uses anti-seize a lot, that is good to know. Thanks for sharing.

 

You’d have to be coating it like chocolate if you were to reduce it by 20%

anti seize restores the thread use back to factory spec. Studs generally have resistance with time.

Use sparing amount of anti seize and always use factory specs.

 

been working on aircraft for 40 years. Do your own research and look up specifications for lubricated fasteners. Apparently you have quite a bit to learn

 

this is completely incorrect. If you use factory specs with a lubricated fastener, you will over torque the fastener.

 

In ideal scenarios for sure.

No fastener that is exposed to elements is factory clean anymore.

Also a dab of anti seize is not "wet torque"

Wet torque is literally dripping, like head bolts.

You suggesting 62ft lbs is naive and dangerous.

 

Your opinion…..but the charts don’t lie

 

Yes, if the fasteners are wet. Not a light paste on rusty threads.

Wet torque is dripping bolts, usually SAE30 or motor oil on them.

 

Lubricated threads are lubricated threads.
If it has lube on it, it is wet.

Do your research & quit throwing out garbage

 

Ive actually been trained in it, hence my correcting. Crazy you think a paste is wet.

I happily quote wheels on under torqued wheels for people that think they know more than engineers.

 

funny thing is engineers are the ones that created the torque reduction charts. And their charts out there that specifically state anti-seize. These are pretty easily searchable for people who want to know the truth versus your BS

 

The torque is determined by the stud diameter, thread pitch, and material grade. Changing wheels doesn't change the required torque. 90 ft-lb is too high on OEM studs.

 

I’m always willing and open to learning something new, and I’ve used ARP head studs with their special oil and torque specs so I understand the logic behind what you’re saying, but IMO, 62lbs/ft seems really loose for a fastener on a wheel of any Tacoma-sized vehicle on the road.

Maybe the aircraft industry is different, or maybe I just can’t help thinking about all the vehicles I towed over 15+years where a wheel came off (or came loose) and I’d check the other wheel nuts and they’d be loose too....

 

Just going to throw this out here, but on my motorcycle per its specs pretty much say the same thing as faawrenchbndr is saying here. When torquing your bolts when using anti sieze you have to reduce the amount of torque applied. It specifically lists anti-sieze and the percentage of reduction is in line with what is being said here.

 

No disrespect to any of the above info, but I wouldn't ever feel comfortable @ 62 lbs ft, regardless of any proven chart. Especially with heavier oversized tires.

I'd rather go with what Toyota recommends, but that's just me.

 

Yep…lubricated is lubricated. Extra wet or not doesn’t really matter. Following Toyota specs is fine, but using anti seize is not following Toyota specs…not that I’ve ever seen anyways. If you want to follow the specs, install dry.