Tires making road noise why ??

Hello TW looking for some help on my road noise tires are wearing inner spots are showing check out pictures.
Toyo at3 about 3 years old just recently starting making noise
Any ideas shocks looks ok to me .
Psi are 30 all around

Tia
Top two pictures are front tires and bottom picture rear tire .

 

Alignment, it's the reason why tires wear evenly/unevenly.

That and wrong tire pressure; this one would be easy to spot if that was the case.

 

Alignment is recommended?

 

I would get an alignment either at a suspension specializing shop or the dealer but If that happened over 3 yrs (mileage reference would be preferred) and the truck drives fine I would rotate the tires more often. Because of the low caster design of these trucks it's kinda hard to make them drive nice without causing tire wear because the toe largely is what stabilizes these trucks at speed. Rotate your tires every 5000kms with the fronts crossed to the rear and rears straight forward.
Make sure the cupping (high spot of the edges) is on the trailing edge and it'll take down the noise. Try a couple psi less of tire pressure if you want but honestly I wouldn't really want much if any less than 30 psi because I find the fuel consumption exponentially increases

 

My 2012 prerunner was wearing tires like that, ball joints shot @ 500k miles.

Your 1st gen prolly could use replacements as well. I get the impression from the forums here it's a weakness on them.

I have a 2003 regular cab 1st gen that I need to have checked out as it has 176k miles.

 

My lbj’s got replaced by dealer on a recall don’t think they are bad . I also have Jba’s uca’s .

 

@joba27n thanks for the info I’ll try alignment first see what if it off . I do have jba uca’s to make for adjustment. I did bump the psi to 32 front an 34 back tires just to see how it ride .

forgot to add so this means my rear end is also off alignment?

 

Alignments are a routine thing.

Rear doesn't get aligned, it's a solid axle.

 

All tires do this to some degree, all terrains are just more noticeable. Along with alignment, doing a cross rotation to work the cupping away will help with its remaining wear. Reversing the tread direction helps prevent this.

 

Looks like some edge cupping going on possibly. My old ranger ate inner tie rods and when one would start to wear it would cause some cupping on the inside edge

 

I did put my front tires straight back not crossing should I cross then ? Or can I take it to a tire shop to get un mounted a switch?

 

I would just cross them instead of flipping them on the rim because the idea is to reverse the wear and take off the high spots causing the noise. You can flip them on the rim but I would try to take down the high spot first because it's wearing that edge now so if you flip it on the rim it'll no longer wear that edge so it'll be harder to lose the noise. Your rear end is a solid axle so unless you have a big issue like bent/misaligned axle the back end wouldn't be touched. I have no personal experience with those uca's but in my experience toyota ball joints are A1 so unless they are worn loose or you've modified the suspension as to need them I would leave them. Remember when checking these front ends it has to be loaded. So jack(stands) under the lower control arm closest to the ball joint as possible with all the weight on the jack(stand)

 

I’ll cross then up first then alignment. Now did you mention front end. I did swap out wheel bearings it didn’t cross my mind when put back together because my wheel didn’t moved . My rig is lifted this just happen after wheel bearing works I’m sure.

 

I mean it's technically possible and as per the service manual you are supposed to check/adjust alignment following a wheel bearing replacement/adjustment so it's not a bad idea. Since in dealership land 95% of wheel bearing replacements are with oem it doesn't usually change the alignment. It's more so a factor of buddy probably hasn't had an alignment in ages. If you're lifted I would throw the arms in first so that it can be compensated for. Also I find with new suspension, control arms the bushings especially take around 2500kms to settle in so if possible I would get another after that period if possible for best results

 

Usually when I see this type of wear, it's because of infrequent (or improper) tire rotations. Bad shocks, alignment, and worn suspension parts certainly can be culprits as well, but I haven't seen that nearly as often as simply not rotating the tires often enough.

Your alignment looks OK to me, judging by your pics (other than the cupping, the wear looks pretty even across the tread).
Rotate them like was said above (rear tires straight up to the front... front tires crossed over to the rear) and they should eventually even themselves out.

 

Pics look like under inflated thus outer edge wear and not rotating or slight camber issue. Front to rear is standard as crossing on truck radials may cause vibration or wandering feeling but many opinions on that so do what your tire store recommends as they are the ones who will be replacing early under a prorated warranty. Are you running E range because that's another issue as heavy sidewalls.
On my 4x4 tires running at 35 always and 265/70R16 ran stocks, Michelins, and Wildpeaks that way for even wear all SL rated.
As for rear if the spring alignment pins are broken off or not in hole then an issue or the rubber or poly spring eye bushings are falling apart misaligning springs - should be able to see all these issues.

 

Thanks for the info @muddog321 im running SL Toyo’s at3 I did switch tires a crossover road noise is gone now . Waiting on jba’s balljoins after I’ll get it alignment done . I was running 30 psi all around but I never did rotated tires for a long time
Alignment was done over a year ago but I did wheels bearing a didn’t do an alignment again after .

 

UPDATE ON THIS THIS
My road noise is back tires are getting the same problem. alignment done 3 weeks ago rides straight on highway.
should I be looking into my shocks? the are 5 year old now .
anyone know the warranty on 5100 ‘s
Running 28 psi all conners
TIA

 

What you are experiencing is perfectly normal. Tires on the front wear more on the tire edges. Every time you corner you have more weight on the outside, or inside edge of your front tires causing them to wear more quickly there. If turning to the left, the outside edge of the right tire is getting more weight on it. The inside edge of the left tire is doing the same. Once that uneven wear starts the tires slap the pavement and make noise This is much more pronounced with aggressive off-road tires. Barely noticeable with street tires.

The best you can do is rotate often. When you place the front tires on the rear they will wear more in the middle and eventually even out the tread depth all across the tire. By the time the tread is the same across on the rear tires, the ones on the front are starting to do this. If you wait too long to rotate the pattern sets in and you'll never correct it. This is where you are. You're stuck with the road noise until you buy new tires. Rotating them still helps a bit since the loudest tires will go on the rear where you don't hear them as much.

You wasted money on the alignment. Unless you hit something that knocks the alignment off it is never needed.

Bad shocks can cause the same issue, but it would be a lot worse than what you have. And you should get 100,000-150,000 miles out of your shocks/struts.

I'd run more than 28 PSI. Tires that soft are more likely to cause the edges to wear faster. I keep mine at about 35 PSI.

 

Thanks man for the info my front suspension is pretty solid no movement I have this issues in all 4 tires inside cupping I don’t see any leaks on my shocks . But ima take off the rears ones and check more closely.