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Timing chain failure

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by 3r3Taco, May 13, 2022.

  1. May 13, 2022 at 11:24 AM
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    3r3Taco

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  2. May 13, 2022 at 11:44 AM
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    dealerships will tell you chains should last the life of the engine but i think the reality is they can stretch, fail, tensioners can also break down etc.
     
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  3. May 13, 2022 at 11:50 AM
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    I'll still take a timing chain over a timing belt, though.
     
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  4. May 13, 2022 at 12:11 PM
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    cryptolime

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    sounds like it wasn't torqued properly at the factory just like the u-bolts on the rear axle.
     
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  5. May 13, 2022 at 12:13 PM
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    cgs2k2

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    funny thing is they aren't lying - it does last the life of the engine. the engine's life ends when the chain ends haha
     
  6. May 13, 2022 at 12:14 PM
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    When has anyone or anyone you know have a timing chain fail? Me, never.
     
  7. May 13, 2022 at 12:15 PM
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    its usually the tensioners for the chain that fail and it skips a tooth.
     
  8. May 13, 2022 at 12:18 PM
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    are these interference engines (i forget the exact term) where the pistons and valves get real friendly when the chain breaks/slips?
     
  9. May 13, 2022 at 12:20 PM
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    good question - i'm not sure about the 3.5 or the 4.0. I know the 3.4 was.
     
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    Superdave1.0

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    Man these 3rd gen 3.5's are failing left and right.
     
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    The 3.4L in the 1st gen Tacomas is a non-interference engine. If the timing belt breaks you're stranded, but it won't harm the engine.
     
  12. May 13, 2022 at 12:29 PM
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    The move from chains to belts was to eliminate stretching, jumping, reduce rotating mass and increase valve precision.

    Even in the 70s, 100k was a decent life for a chain.

    Chains came back because quality/precision increased and complaints about required PM om belts
     
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  14. May 13, 2022 at 12:29 PM
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    huh just did some digging and it looks like you are right. i had a 3.4 in my 4runner for years and always assumed it was interference
     
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    7 miles? Thats an assembly error for sure.

    Also curious to know if the 3.5 is an interference engine?
     
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    I find sorta conflicting assumptions regarding the 4.0 but most seem to say it's interference. I know the 22re of old and 2.7 were chain driven interference engines
     
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    Out of the 1.25 million plus sold how many have you seen???

    And thats just Tacoma 3.5's they're in several other models also.
     
  18. May 13, 2022 at 12:40 PM
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    A bunch.
     
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    I've seen way more 2nd gens with frame rot.....
     
  20. May 13, 2022 at 12:49 PM
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    Timing chains are supposed to be changed out every 80-120k miles. Have I done it?

    nope. My IS350 is at 145k and I have no plans to do it either.
     
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