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Thoughts on Offroad Warehouse Lift Package?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by fcowell, Aug 7, 2019.

  1. Aug 7, 2019 at 8:28 PM
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    I have a 2019 TRD Sport 2WD with 265/70r17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers mounted on Helo 878 wheels (17” x 9” with a -12mm offset).

    I have rubbing with this setup and I’d like to lift the truck ever so slightly to eliminate the rub as well as “improve” the look (my personal opinion and preference).

    Pictures are attached for reference:
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    NOTE: The mud flaps have been removed since these photos were taken. I’m still getting rubbing, and I’m pretty sure it’s on the plastic body cladding where the mud flaps were located.

    I would like to lift it 2” in the front and 1” in the rear. Of course, I’d like to maintain a comfortable ride as much as possible as this is my daily driver (understanding that the stock suspension is going to be the smoothest).

    Knowing that spacer lifts are frowned upon, but knowing that I don’t need anything crazy, I am considering this package from ORW:
    https://offroadwarehouse.com/i-23039322-off-road-warehouse-full-suspension-stage-1-for-2016-toyota-tacoma-6-lug.html#!model=2019||make=TACOMA||year=TOYOTA

    Your thoughts are appreciated!

    DISCLAIMER: I don’t do any “off-roading” - I will be taking it camping and doing basic outdoor activities that could take me off the main road but in no way will I be “crawling”, going through muddy/sandy terrain, and nobody I will be with will ever say “send it!”.
     
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  2. Aug 7, 2019 at 9:07 PM
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    Lifting will not eliminate rubbing. The type of lift you are looking at does not limit the wheel up travel to a point below where it contacts / rubs.
     
  3. Aug 7, 2019 at 9:12 PM
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    DISCLAIMER: I don’t do any “off-roading” - I will be taking it camping and doing basic outdoor activities that could take me off the main road but in no way will I be “crawling”, going through muddy/sandy terrain, and nobody I will be with will ever say “send it!”.[/QUOTE]

    ...:rofl:

    Just role with new Billys man. If you are super gnarly on your camping trips then get the 6112's, otherwise those 5100's are all good. You prob need to adjust your caster forward to 2.8-3.2 decrees btw
     
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    @SpeySquatch Thanks for the reply! So you think that package I linked to is fine as a kit? When you say “adjust your caster forward” - I assume I would tell that to whoever does my alignment after the lift? I’m dumb when it comes to this stuff.
     
  5. Aug 7, 2019 at 11:36 PM
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    Yes. Another optional upgrade in the future would be some aftermarket UCAs if need be
     
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    The rub is probably from the mud flaps...
     
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    @TXTRDOR Thanks for the reply!
    Yes, those caused most of the rubbing - these photos were taken before I took the mud flaps off. Even with the mud flaps off, I am getting rubbing on the plastic body cladding, not the fender liner. This happens at certain angles and happens more often at certain angles with additional weight in the truck (people, whatever).
     
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    Thanks!
    The UCAs would do what exactly?
     
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    Help with alignment, caster, and articulation if you have more droop than the stock UCA can do
     
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    Thanks, @SpeySquatch !

    So, based on your and others feedback, I think my setup will be 5100s all the way around on stock coils (3rd notch up-front for about a 1.5" lift) with a one inch block in the rear.
     
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    I wouldn’t run the blocks but that is just me. Expensive truck to put blocks on. The add a leaf should add some stiffness and lift.

    If you really need the capability for added weight (400+lbs) go with an HD or medium Dakar leaf pack
     
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    Yes it will? You need to do more research.
     
  13. Aug 8, 2019 at 4:45 PM
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    Solid plan but go with add a leaf like the other guy said. Blocks are cheap especially with Tacoma’s notoriously soft stock leafs.
     
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    it won’t. You need to learn physics or understand how suspension works on the Tacoma. All it will do is lessen how often it rubs. The OP asked to eliminate it.
    When you lift with the type of lift the op asked for you are not actually moving the bottom or top of the actual wheel travel, you are simply changing its static location. So if the wheel rubs at a particular location, it will still rub as the wheel can still get to that location. The reason people some people “believe” they have got rid of it, is simply because they are not using full wheel travel.
     
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    You’re looking into it too much as the op said he doesn’t off-road. He has 265’s. He’s going to lift it 2” and never rub again. He’s not maximizing his trucks articulation. Limiting a vehicles up travel is the dumbest thing I’ve heard when a guy is asking for tips to stop rubbing on his daily. He doesn’t have long travel. He doesn’t need limiting straps, he doesn’t need bump stops. He simply needs to lift his truck 2” and it will get him the results he’s asking for.
     
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    Who mentioned he should limit his up travel? Who said anything about limiting straps (which is something entirely different anyway, it’s down travel).
    He said he wanted to eliminate tire rub, a lift he is asking about won’t eliminate it. It’s that simple.
    You can hit bump stop simply by hitting a parking lot entrance too fast. It will rub again, just not as often that all.
     
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    YOU DID :rofl:
    OP this guy is a clown. Lift your truck like you are planning and your rubbing issues will go away. Unless you plan on getting into some off-roading and flexing then that’s a different story. :cheers:
     
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    Read it again. Seriously quote where I recommend limiting up travel!

    Above you alluded to it won’t eliminate rubbing. You’re actually saying it WILL rub, just with off-road flexing. So you’re kinda making a judgment call on how the OP drives. If you can hit bump stops, that is full up travel, and you will rub before you even get to that point on the Tacoma. So are you’re making an assumption that the OP won’t hit bump stops while on the road.
     
  19. Aug 8, 2019 at 7:09 PM
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    Can you read what the OP said he’d be doing? Jesus you’re a fucking idiot. You literally said “the lift you are looking at does not limit the wheel up travel.” You must not be all there so I guess I apologize for saying anything offensive to you. I didn’t realize at first that you are mentally challenged.
     
  20. Aug 8, 2019 at 7:23 PM
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    Seriously stop with the insults, you only hurting yourself. If you can’t defend what your trying to say, that’s a reflection of you not me. I did not recommend limiting up travel in that statement, that’s you not understanding English or reading more into a statement.

    It seems you have come to the conclusion that a lift will not eliminate tire rubbing, you’ve said as much, and that what is what the OP said he wanted to do. Since that is what started this tit for tat BS, so I’m done with replying. You’ve already proved yourself wrong in your first quote to me where you said a lift would stop tire rubbing.
     

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