1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Suspension upgrade maybe?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by DW85, Feb 2, 2016.

  1. Feb 2, 2016 at 3:02 PM
    #1
    DW85

    DW85 [OP] Dude.....

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Member:
    #95397
    Messages:
    928
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    Kentucky
    Vehicle:
    2001 XtraCab Tacoma TRD 4x4/2004 SR5 V6 4Runner
    Tacoma: Badlands basher front bumper Trail gear rear bumper Trail gear sliders OME Dakar’s OME 883 Coils Bilstein 5100s front Bilstein 5125s rear SPC Upper Control Arms Wheeler’s Extended brake lines ProComp 51 Series 15x8 3.5” BS 32x11.50x15 BFG KO2’s Honda CR-V windshield washer nozzles Hella 500FF fog lights Energy Suspension power steering rack bushings 4Runner: Hankook DynaPro ATM RF10 265/70r17’s TPMS Bypass mod RCI Skid Plate CBI Ditch light brackets 1.25” Wheel Spacers 2” Front Leveling Kit
    This is my truck as of a few days ago its on Wheelers type B's with 31x10.50, has full Budbuilt skid plates and the shell which is only on during the winter. Does the suspension look a little tired or is this fairly normal for factory?KIMG0018.jpg
     
  2. Feb 2, 2016 at 3:04 PM
    #2
    DustStorm4x4

    DustStorm4x4 BBC 2020

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Member:
    #158634
    Messages:
    8,934
    Gender:
    Male
    U S A
    Vehicle:
    04 Jeep LJ
    How many miles does the suspension have on it? It is a 16 year old truck...
     
  3. Feb 2, 2016 at 3:08 PM
    #3
    Digiratus

    Digiratus Adventurer

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Member:
    #34006
    Messages:
    23,490
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Roaming the PNW
    Vehicle:
    The RedHead
    2002 XtraCab TRD 4x4 SCv6 AutoTrans With Lots of Mods ADS COs w/Compression Adjusters Camburg Uniball UCAs Whiteline Lower Control Arm Bushings Kartek 7" Limit Straps Plastics Guy Front Bumpstops Custom Alcan Springs +800 lbs +3" ADS 10" Stroke Triple Bypass w/Resi Rear Shocks Custom Rear Shock Relocate All-Pro U-bolt Flip w/Timbren Bumpstops 4.88 Nitro Gears ARB Front Locker ARB Twin Compressor Black 17x8 Konig Countersteer Type X 285/70r17 Falken A/T3w Gunmetal 16x8 SCS Ray10s 255/85r16 Maxxis Bighorns Limited Edition (Relentless) Elite Front Bumper Smittybilt X2O 10K Winch Diode Dynamics SS3 Sport Selective Yellow Fog Lights in the Bumper Diode Dynamics SS3 Pro 4,000 Kelvin SAE Driving Lights with Clear Lenses on the Bumper Morimoto D2S Projectors XB35 Ballasts + 4300K Bulbs Badland Sliders FrankenFab Tire Carrier Swingout bumper w/kitchen BudBuilt Front & Bellypan Skids BAMF Rear Diff Skid Dometic CFX 55im Fridge/Freezer Alpha II Hardshell RTT Badland Custom Bed Rack Denso 210-0461 105 amp alternator Dual Northstar 24F AGM batteries BlueSea 7622 ML-ACR Battery controller Peak DBI Dual Battery Voltage Monitor Haltech IC-7 Display with Mako Dash Insert Haltech Elite 2000 Standalone ECU Magnuson MP62 Supercharger w/URD 2.2" Pulley Denso 650cc Fuel Injectors Aeromotive Stealth 340 Fuel Pump TransGo A340F Reprogramming Shift Kit Doug Thorley Headers 2.5" Magnaflow Hi-Flow CAT Magnaflow 18" Muffler w/Vibrant Resonator 13WL Brake Calipers Braided Steel Brake Lines ScanGauge II OBDII Scanner Kenwood TM-71A Dual Band Ham Radio Larson 70CM/2M Antenna Uniden 520xl CB radio 3' Firestik Adjustable tip antenna Pioneer DEH-P9400BH HU Alpine Amps & Type R components (F) and coaxials (R) Wet Okole Seat Covers Weathertech Digital Liners Deck Plate Mod 1" Diff Drop Carrier Bearing Drop
    If you think it looks tired, then it probably is.

    How does it drive?
     
    DustStorm4x4 likes this.
  4. Feb 2, 2016 at 3:30 PM
    #4
    DW85

    DW85 [OP] Dude.....

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Member:
    #95397
    Messages:
    928
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    Kentucky
    Vehicle:
    2001 XtraCab Tacoma TRD 4x4/2004 SR5 V6 4Runner
    Tacoma: Badlands basher front bumper Trail gear rear bumper Trail gear sliders OME Dakar’s OME 883 Coils Bilstein 5100s front Bilstein 5125s rear SPC Upper Control Arms Wheeler’s Extended brake lines ProComp 51 Series 15x8 3.5” BS 32x11.50x15 BFG KO2’s Honda CR-V windshield washer nozzles Hella 500FF fog lights Energy Suspension power steering rack bushings 4Runner: Hankook DynaPro ATM RF10 265/70r17’s TPMS Bypass mod RCI Skid Plate CBI Ditch light brackets 1.25” Wheel Spacers 2” Front Leveling Kit
    Front has about 35k rear leafs are factory and rear struts have about 35k. It drives ok... I've been contemplating OME 881's and dakars with the nitro-chargers but I don't want a lot of lift. Although I'm also contemplating tube bumpers as well.

    More pics for fun.
    IMG_1465[1].jpg IMG_1467.jpg
     
  5. Feb 2, 2016 at 3:33 PM
    #5
    DW85

    DW85 [OP] Dude.....

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Member:
    #95397
    Messages:
    928
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    Kentucky
    Vehicle:
    2001 XtraCab Tacoma TRD 4x4/2004 SR5 V6 4Runner
    Tacoma: Badlands basher front bumper Trail gear rear bumper Trail gear sliders OME Dakar’s OME 883 Coils Bilstein 5100s front Bilstein 5125s rear SPC Upper Control Arms Wheeler’s Extended brake lines ProComp 51 Series 15x8 3.5” BS 32x11.50x15 BFG KO2’s Honda CR-V windshield washer nozzles Hella 500FF fog lights Energy Suspension power steering rack bushings 4Runner: Hankook DynaPro ATM RF10 265/70r17’s TPMS Bypass mod RCI Skid Plate CBI Ditch light brackets 1.25” Wheel Spacers 2” Front Leveling Kit
    Oh and that would be 207,000 miles on the truck.
     
  6. Feb 2, 2016 at 3:36 PM
    #6
    DeeKay21

    DeeKay21 Lieutenant Dan.

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Member:
    #10651
    Messages:
    14,151
    Gender:
    Male
    Nevada/Utah
    Vehicle:
    06' TRD Sport 4x4
    With the truck being that old and that many miles I'd say the suspension is dragging a little bit. I'd say put a small lift on it like a 3" suspension lift and you will be very happy with that.
     
  7. Feb 2, 2016 at 7:37 PM
    #7
    bigwyt1

    bigwyt1 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2016
    Member:
    #176943
    Messages:
    3
    Hello all.

    I am in a similar position. I have about 185,000 miles on my 04 tacoma trd. This is a 2 wheel drive with the rear diff lock.

    I have been looking at Fox Shocks Here > http://www.amazon.com/COIL-OVER-SHO...r=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=fox+shocks+04+tacoma+trd


    or these > http://www.shocksurplus.com/products/rancho-quicklift-set-96-04-toyota-tacoma-4wd-2wd-prerun.html


    Any info or direction would be greatly appreciated. Not looking for anything big as this is my daily driver. Really just need to have a cush ride back.

    here is what she looks like now.


    Thanks

    Mike
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2016
    DustStorm4x4 likes this.
  8. Feb 2, 2016 at 8:11 PM
    #8
    DustStorm4x4

    DustStorm4x4 BBC 2020

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Member:
    #158634
    Messages:
    8,934
    Gender:
    Male
    U S A
    Vehicle:
    04 Jeep LJ
    Is that picture in Johnson Valley?
     
  9. Feb 2, 2016 at 8:17 PM
    #9
    bigwyt1

    bigwyt1 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2016
    Member:
    #176943
    Messages:
    3
    Yes it is. Good eye.
     
    DustStorm4x4[QUOTED] likes this.
  10. Feb 2, 2016 at 8:19 PM
    #10
    DustStorm4x4

    DustStorm4x4 BBC 2020

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Member:
    #158634
    Messages:
    8,934
    Gender:
    Male
    U S A
    Vehicle:
    04 Jeep LJ
    Hahaaa I'll never forget that place.
     
  11. Feb 3, 2016 at 7:34 AM
    #11
    CodeSeven

    CodeSeven LOC: 33.781461, -115.867251

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2014
    Member:
    #136597
    Messages:
    2,186
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Serge.
    Coachella Valley
    Vehicle:
    '00 Taco 3.4 4x4 TRD ( <3), '06 Taco Prerunner 4.0 (totaled)
    3 inch lift. bluetooth stereo. blue transparent skulls shift knobs
    Youd be better off with this kit.
     
  12. Feb 3, 2016 at 7:39 AM
    #12
    CodeSeven

    CodeSeven LOC: 33.781461, -115.867251

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2014
    Member:
    #136597
    Messages:
    2,186
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Serge.
    Coachella Valley
    Vehicle:
    '00 Taco 3.4 4x4 TRD ( <3), '06 Taco Prerunner 4.0 (totaled)
    3 inch lift. bluetooth stereo. blue transparent skulls shift knobs
    Speaking of which. will the bilstein D558 shocks that are in my previous post work with stock springs?
     
  13. Feb 3, 2016 at 8:07 AM
    #13
    bigwyt1

    bigwyt1 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2016
    Member:
    #176943
    Messages:
    3

    So why this over that? What are the pros / cons. My main reason for the coil overs was they are EZ to install. I don't have a spring compressor nor do i want to use one. I ride dirt bikes not work on cars / trucks. My main objective is to be ale to run down a water board dirt road and not feel it. Plus the back end sags a bit with 2 bikes in the back.
     
  14. Feb 3, 2016 at 9:48 AM
    #14
    CodeSeven

    CodeSeven LOC: 33.781461, -115.867251

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2014
    Member:
    #136597
    Messages:
    2,186
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Serge.
    Coachella Valley
    Vehicle:
    '00 Taco 3.4 4x4 TRD ( <3), '06 Taco Prerunner 4.0 (totaled)
    3 inch lift. bluetooth stereo. blue transparent skulls shift knobs
    1, price.
    2, neither of the 2 that you linked come with a real lift. your ass will still be dragging. unless you buy the pump kits or extra canisters. the one I linked is an actual physical lift that adds both ride height and carrying capabilities (for the rear) through the physical springs. the fox shocks aired up, under the added weight of yoru bikes, can blow.
    3, you will be using the same tools to do the same job, minus the spring compressor that you can either rent, or see if a shop can swap out for you real quick.

    id add more but i gotta go to work. maybe later after i think about it.
     
  15. Feb 3, 2016 at 9:59 AM
    #15
    Digiratus

    Digiratus Adventurer

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Member:
    #34006
    Messages:
    23,490
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Roaming the PNW
    Vehicle:
    The RedHead
    2002 XtraCab TRD 4x4 SCv6 AutoTrans With Lots of Mods ADS COs w/Compression Adjusters Camburg Uniball UCAs Whiteline Lower Control Arm Bushings Kartek 7" Limit Straps Plastics Guy Front Bumpstops Custom Alcan Springs +800 lbs +3" ADS 10" Stroke Triple Bypass w/Resi Rear Shocks Custom Rear Shock Relocate All-Pro U-bolt Flip w/Timbren Bumpstops 4.88 Nitro Gears ARB Front Locker ARB Twin Compressor Black 17x8 Konig Countersteer Type X 285/70r17 Falken A/T3w Gunmetal 16x8 SCS Ray10s 255/85r16 Maxxis Bighorns Limited Edition (Relentless) Elite Front Bumper Smittybilt X2O 10K Winch Diode Dynamics SS3 Sport Selective Yellow Fog Lights in the Bumper Diode Dynamics SS3 Pro 4,000 Kelvin SAE Driving Lights with Clear Lenses on the Bumper Morimoto D2S Projectors XB35 Ballasts + 4300K Bulbs Badland Sliders FrankenFab Tire Carrier Swingout bumper w/kitchen BudBuilt Front & Bellypan Skids BAMF Rear Diff Skid Dometic CFX 55im Fridge/Freezer Alpha II Hardshell RTT Badland Custom Bed Rack Denso 210-0461 105 amp alternator Dual Northstar 24F AGM batteries BlueSea 7622 ML-ACR Battery controller Peak DBI Dual Battery Voltage Monitor Haltech IC-7 Display with Mako Dash Insert Haltech Elite 2000 Standalone ECU Magnuson MP62 Supercharger w/URD 2.2" Pulley Denso 650cc Fuel Injectors Aeromotive Stealth 340 Fuel Pump TransGo A340F Reprogramming Shift Kit Doug Thorley Headers 2.5" Magnaflow Hi-Flow CAT Magnaflow 18" Muffler w/Vibrant Resonator 13WL Brake Calipers Braided Steel Brake Lines ScanGauge II OBDII Scanner Kenwood TM-71A Dual Band Ham Radio Larson 70CM/2M Antenna Uniden 520xl CB radio 3' Firestik Adjustable tip antenna Pioneer DEH-P9400BH HU Alpine Amps & Type R components (F) and coaxials (R) Wet Okole Seat Covers Weathertech Digital Liners Deck Plate Mod 1" Diff Drop Carrier Bearing Drop
    Of the two choices, the Fox setup seems like the better option if cost isn't a factor. The only downside I see is that they are a smaller diameter shock which means they have a limited oil capacity so under heavy use you may see some fade from heat. Also, it apears they may not be rebuildable or revalveable. Not sure if that is important to you. I do like the fact that they are truly height adjustable so you can dial in the exact amount of lift you want.

    I am not sure why TW members always recomend the Eibach 620# coils paired with 5100s. IMO, they give to much lift and can create issues because of it. Some trucks will experience more that 3" with the Toytec billie/eibach lift and those coils are very stiff unless you have a lot of weight hanging off the front end.

    I see a couple of downsides to the rancho deal. I am pretty sure those are the older type shock technology and are not a nitrogen charged, monotube design. Also, it may just be the picture, but the rear, top shock mount is wrong for the 1st gen Tacoma. The compression adjustability for ride comfort is nice tho. I used their rs9000 shocks years ago with that tech and it was nice to be able to change from stiff (highway/pavement) to soft (offroad). The price is nice too.
     
  16. Feb 3, 2016 at 10:40 AM
    #16
    frizzman

    frizzman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2013
    Member:
    #113212
    Messages:
    5,332
    Gender:
    Male
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Vehicle:
    04 XCab 4x4 TRD/OR
    OME 2.5,Tundra 17s,Falken Wildpeak AT3W hitch w/ 7-pin, ARE cap, JVC HU w/BT, HID/LED lights
    your stance in general is good with the rake. if you're looking for load carrying but NO LIFT get these http://www.generalspringkc.com/product_p/90-237hd.htm

    if you want a lift then you may want to opt for the AAL with Dakars or the AllPro Expedition ( )

    you could even get air bags as suggested above or "spring helpers" http://www.4wheelparts.com/Towing/Leaf-Spring-Helper.aspx?t_c=67&t_s=2&t_pt=3398
     

Products Discussed in

To Top