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So Much for Harbor Freight Tie Rod Separators...

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by skeezix, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. Nov 22, 2017 at 2:00 PM
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    skeezix

    skeezix [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Yesterday I began the process of replacing the passenger side axle assembly on my 1998 Limited. To get the axle out I needed a tie rod separator tool. I searched the internet and watched several videos claiming that the below tool worked fine on their 1st Gen Tacomas, so I bought one at Harbor Freight for $23.07. Here is what I bought and used:
    Harbor Freight Ball Joint Separator 200x200.jpg
    When I got home I had trouble fitting it into the joint. Couldn't get the tool's bolt centered above the tie rod bolt. I should have quit at that point but I didn't. Not only did the tool do its job, the tool's bolt broke off a bit off the top of the tie rod's bolt and boogered that bolt's top 2 or 3 threads, all the way down to the top of the cotter pin hole. So much for the cheap tool and I'm taking it back when the job is done.

    Here are some photos:

    20171122 Tie Rod Bolt 03.jpg




    20171122 Tie Rod Bolt 01.jpg

    I measured the inner diameter of the tool and it is 0.50", and the outer diameter of the tie rod bolt where the tool should go is 0.78". My bad, and now I'll hafta pay...

    I tried using several small files to clean up the threads but so far have not had any luck, and so I ordered a replacement outer tie rod ($52 from Mid-Atlantic). Then I returned to the job and tried to loosen the outer tie rod nut. It so happens that whoever did the last alignment started to round off the inner tie rod wrenching surfaces, and the lock nut on the outer tie rod is on really tight. I used a 10" Crescent wrench and a 14" pipe wrench and all my 73-year-old strength (and it ain't much dontcha know). The nut wouldn't budge. Right now I've put some liquid wrench on the threads and will repeat over the next day or so.

    At this point my options are (1) buy a 2nd pipe wrench (an 18" one) and try again; (2) continue working on filing down the butched-up threads; (3) saw off the tie rod if I can, and use a socket (if I have one) on the lock nut and a pipe wrench on the inner tie rod's wrenching surface; (4) remove the inner tie rod, take it to the bench and try to get the lock nut off; and (5) set off a bomb underneath the truck.

    So my question is, how hard is it to remove the passenger inner and outer tie rods as an assembly and without removing the steering rack???

    20171122 Tie Rod Bolt 02.jpg
     
  2. Nov 22, 2017 at 2:04 PM
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    Jcyr

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    Use a torch to heat the sleve those nuts always cease to the threads get it red hot then crank on it
     
  3. Nov 22, 2017 at 3:08 PM
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    Unless I read wrong long week 36 plus hours in 3 days

    You used the tool wrong I have a little better one but the same style

    Popped quite a few tie rod ends off no problems
     
  4. Nov 23, 2017 at 2:07 PM
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    not bagging on you... next time loosen the nut until their is a cavity that will hold the seperator bolt in place and apply pressure then. This should prevent what happened to you and stop the ball joint/steering arm from falling. If you have never worked on a particluar type of vehicle before you are not 100% sure that the assembly is under load. If you remove the nut and break the joint free while under load bad things can happen.
     
  5. Nov 23, 2017 at 2:28 PM
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    But some MAPP gas if you don’t have any. Splurge and get the trigger start also. There are so many other things you will use the MAPP gas for so it will be worth buying. MAPP gas burns hotter than propane and will make the job of heating much quicker.
     
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  6. Nov 24, 2017 at 9:14 AM
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    Next time (if there is one) I'll use the correct tool for the job. Problem is, I can only find one as part of a set. If anybody knows where I can get this tool, maybe he could let me know??
    Ball Joint Separator.jpg
     

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