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Sluggish after oil change with Restore Engine Restorer

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Caligula, Jun 23, 2015.

  1. Jun 23, 2015 at 3:48 PM
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    So just changed my oil yesterday with Castrol High Mileage 5w30. Along with that i added about 8oz of Restore Engine Restorer (half of a 8 cylinder bottle, its cheaper then getting two 4 cylinder cans). The truck now feels like i have 1000lb of cargo in the back, with no power going up inclines without me flooring it.

    I added the entire 5qt jug of oil. Though the capacity is specified to be 5.8qt with a filter change, the entire jug filled the engine just below the 'F' mark on the dipstick. Before this it had admittedly been about 5000 miles since the last change, oil was quite dirty, and it was just below the empty mark on the dipstick (oil pan has a seeping leak).

    Ive not found any loose or broken vacuum lines. No engine codes, i need to get my scanner back from my friend to see the engine parameters.

    Has any experienced this when using Retore or Risoline? Would the engine previously being low on oil cause it to perform better?
     
  2. Jun 23, 2015 at 3:52 PM
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    I ran one of those in my old jeep but as far as I was told, You were supposed to add it and run it then change the oil as it was supposed to gather debris and help clean it out.

    Since it did nothing helpful I never used it again.

    I would change the oil and filter again and cut your losses, dont bother with those bullshit things that claim the world in a can.
     
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    I have always used restore in any engine that needs it for high mileage,and I have never heard of this,it is essentially just oil with microscopic metal in it to fill in any imperfections in the cyl walls and pistons. so it should have no bearing on engine power.the fact that the engine was low on oil would have no bearing either.it sounds like you have some other problem? are you sure you took your e brake off after changing oil lol. just kidding but I have done that before shortly. please don't think im serious there just kidding. but I have been a mechanic for years now is all im baseing this off of.i would look for other problems.not sure where but it definitely don't have anything to do with the restore.
     
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    with restore you leave it in for the duration of you oil change so it can fill in any imperfections.they do make a oil stuff you put in before you drain your oil that cleans everything out so its cleaner inside your engine for the new oil. but restore you leave in.also I make it a habbit to check my oil in all my vehicles at least once a week even in the newer ones because you never know when something may happen to cause it to use oil or leak oil. so its a good idea toi get in that habbit, if it is known to use some then twice a week would be better it only takes a second to save a engine
     
  5. Jun 23, 2015 at 4:21 PM
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    I need to find my propane torch. Id like to do the old trick of spraying the engine with propane and watch for an RPM change. I didnt see anything, but maybe a vacuum line cracked inadvertently.

    I also need to get my scanner, the O2 sensor leaning out would be a good indicator of a leak.

    I just went outside and checked this. Its not the E-brake. I would have slapped myself if its was. ;)
     
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  6. Jun 23, 2015 at 4:36 PM
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    I'd like to add this is the first time i added it to the Tacoma. Although I can be somewhere between wary to offended to 'cure in a can' items, such as Bar's stop leak type garbage, many in the classic BMW community have been using Risoline on the M50 and other early hydraulic lifter engines with great results. I had used this previously in the 3FE engine, but without any noticeable change in cam or lifter noise.

    My hopes were to provide some level of improvement in cylinder sealing and more even compression as the truck is at about 280000 miles, and a recent compression test put cylinders 2 and 3 producing about 15psi lower than 1 and 4.
     
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    Dumb question.. does the 00 2.7 have vvt?
     
  8. Jun 23, 2015 at 4:49 PM
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  9. Jun 23, 2015 at 4:55 PM
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    BUCKLE UP! It makes it harder for Aliens to pull you out of your Truck.
    Carry on.
     
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    have you checked the cat? a plugged cat will kill your power like that
     
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    I agree with keakar, plugged cat does just that? be worth checking, run it at night and look under it after running it a few minutes and look for a bright orange glow, when they are plugging or plugged usually you can see them glow about dark sometimers they are bright orange.just one easy way to see if the cats plugged.if you still have the cat in the exhaust? im from where we don't have exhaust checks or whatever you call them.
     
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    Interesting thing i found:
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Resto...itive-Almost-ruined-my-engine-Internet-883794

     
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    to that I would say that that guy never changed his oil or he used a cheap stuff and let the engine get full of all kinds of carbon and other crap then after all that was in the engine he did restore and it broke it all loose and that's what caused his problems not the restore itself? in my opinion. cause I have used restore for years with either good results or not noticeable results.so if you take care of your engine and use good quality oils you should never get buildup in there in the first place.just mt opinion though.
     
  14. Jun 23, 2015 at 9:23 PM
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    True, they're smog checks, and that would explain the issues, though i doubt its not related to the change. I just ordered a pack of 10 filters off ebay for $42. Looks like a good deal considering i usually pay $5 each for these.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/321781922986?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

    The oil still looks fairly clean just from the dipstick. Ill be replacing the filter when these come in, then maybe the oil.
     
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    anything is possible,so im not saying it definitely isn't related but I just don't see how a oil could cause no power? even if you have no oil flow it will run until it starts heat seazing?I had a guy bring a older Toyota pixckup in awhile back and he wanted a tuneup and oil change so I drained the oil and when I got the drain pan out from under it had like half a qt of oil in it? I called and asked him when the last time he checked the oil was and he said he couldn't remember? so I figure it was running that way for quite some time and it still sounded good and when I drove it I had all the power a 22r ever had. kinda off the subject a tad but I thought that's a testament to the older toy engines.ive seen them abused bad and still keep going.these newer ones although good can be picky about some things. but let us kmow if the new filter does help im curious now.hope no one takes offense to anything I write sometimes I think with my typing finger.lol
     
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    Good point. Again, i need to liberate my scanner. Id be interested in the o2 readings. If there is a blockage in the exhaust, i would deduce that there should be an increase of inert gasses, and thus there would be a less dramatic waveform off the o2. Is my thinking correct?

    I know can hook up a vaccum guage to the exhaust to confirm this. I am limited to my tools at my apartment, but I could drill a hole, then thread tap it ahead of the catalytic with some kind of fitting. Or just unbolt the EGR and draw from there. I know manifold vacuum can be used as well but I've not found it to be as conclusive as reading the exhaust pressure directly.

    I'd have to drive the truck in order to get my tools to do this, so I'm more inclined to hold off until I change out the filter.
     
  17. Jun 24, 2015 at 8:20 PM
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    your correct, I have a special tap and fitting that is made for doing just that you drill a hole before the cat get readings then after the cat then weld the holes shut. it is very helpful. I think I would at least try that. who knows these new vehicles can be crazy. just tonight I was driving mine to town bout thirty mile trip it has been fine since I had it now bout two weeks or so I stopped at the ballfield for daughters game and looked down and check engine was on? I got home and scanned it and got code p0705 which is transmission shift range sensor ? so I guess now I get to find that problem? it has been fine no troubles shifting or starting like they say can happen? have you or any one else had this one yet? well I hope you get ypours figured out, if I think of anything else ill put it up here, but I think your on the right path.keep us posted if you have time.
     
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    Check your spark plugs, maybe they got fouled with the process.
     
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    If the cat is original id probably look more into that. Just a few months ago my 97 2.7 with 300k on it suddenly lost power and I pulled the cat and all the inards had come apart and tried going down the exhaust plugging it off. Fixed that and the power came back.
     
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