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Settling: Osram Night breaker unlimited *pics*

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by NickM, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. Nov 20, 2013 at 8:12 PM
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    Sorry about the link, didnt realize it made you join to view pics. Here ya go,

    Well after a dozen back and forth's, I have decided against HID's in my Tacoma because of the insurance clauses for aftermarket HIDs and am settling for an upgraded Halogen. After much reading, I ended up going with OSRAM Night Breakers Unlimited. They look nice in the garage. I haven't had them out yet. I didn't realize the color difference would be so drastic. My halogens and fogs are both stock with my 2011 Tacoma. I wasn't going for the fake HID look but whatever I guess. I own the headlights now. Here is a few pics of the upgrade. Hope they're good on the road. I saved my old ones in case. Anyone ever used these?

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  2. Nov 20, 2013 at 8:17 PM
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    You should post pics here too. I know at least for myself I don't feel like registering on another forum to see them. (Even though I am registered on HID already for that very reason)
     
  3. Nov 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM
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    Sorry. I will tonight. Did realize its was like that. Just fixed my original post
     
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  4. Nov 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM
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    Do they have a kelvin rating on them?
     
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    They say (OSRAM) 3900K. So below HID but well above Halogen at 3200-3400. In the first pic I only have the right side lamp installed. it gives you good contrast for how much whiter the color is. However, I didn't notice substantial light down the road. Same as stock but whiter.
     
  6. Nov 21, 2013 at 5:26 PM
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    I meant to put this in the lighting forum, can a mod please do this? Thanks,
     
  7. Nov 21, 2013 at 8:08 PM
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    Osram is the parent company of Sylvania based out of Germany. The bulbs with the Osram brand name on them generally do NOT have DOT approval so if you're concerned about adding aftermarket HID lighting you may be up the same creek sans paddle if you have any issues as you're trying to avoid.
     
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    The kelvin rating doesn't rate the amount of light that is coming out, just the colour. So since that they are whiter, they are going to "appear" brighter. Similar to Piaa Extreme white bulbs. In your case you might just be better off to stick to the OEM bulbs so you don't have any trouble.
     
  9. Nov 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM
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    I bought some bluer halogen bulbs once. The state police didn't like them and ordered me to replace them. They were too blue and looked like HID bulbs but only HIDs can be that blue.
     
  10. Nov 21, 2013 at 8:25 PM
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    I can understand that. I was talking to my Mechanic the other day and they said that DOT is making harder for people to get 6000k and above HID bulbs now. You can only get 6000K and under. I can understand it seeing some cars with 10,000k HID's and they're blinding. Kind of defeats the purpose of having 10,000k HID when they're purple.
     
  11. Nov 21, 2013 at 8:31 PM
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    No, my guess is they were like 6000k or even higher. True OEM HIDs are NOT blue. They're white. Most are in the actual 4300-4500k range. It's pretty obvious to most anyone including LEOs. Not to mention higher than that color temp you're losing light anyway. Never understood the re re's that run blue or purple headlights. They're usually the first one to scream that they're being profiled when it was their intention to stand out. Herp derp. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Nov 21, 2013 at 8:33 PM
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    That number is NOT the brightness. It's the color temperature. 10,000k IS purple. You can't get 10,000k that's white.. it's not possible. It's like getting a 100 degree cup of water that's cold. It just doesn't work that way. If you want crisp, bright white light you'll get 4,300-4,500k as that's OEM. Anyone who tells you higher is OEM is going off of aftermarket standards which are all screwy due to years of cheap import HID kits and nobody having a clue what any of the numbers means.
     
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    10,000k is purple. You can have to go under 6000K HID to get white. Anything passed 4000K is white. 4000K backwards is yellow. The kelvin rating is the colour of the bulb, not how bright it is.
     
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    What are you my retarded echo? That's what I just said after you said: "Kind of defeats the purpose of having 10,000k HID when they're purple." Wut? 10,000 is purple so what is the purpose? My guess is that you thought that 10,000 was the brightness and getting it that bright but purple defeats the purpose. Kelvin is a measurement of light color and NOT brightness.

    3000k is yellow. 4000k is NOT yellow. In fact, high 3000's is close to the white/yellow color of OEM halogen bulbs. I'm NOT talking those inaccurate aftermarket ratings either. Those vary depending on who you buy from so I'm talking actual real color temperatures. Go look at an OEM HID ballast and it will likely be 4,500k & 35 watts.
     
  15. Nov 21, 2013 at 8:53 PM
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    Yeah I'm getting that retarded echo too. We are agreeing, that i can see now.
     
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    Well, This is the first time this even crossed my mind. Illegal Halogens. I looked at them from down the road and they didn't look blue. Up close from an angle you can see a bit (as shown in pics). The package was written in another language so it makes sense now that you say that. I wish it weren't illegal to put legitimate HID projectors in the Taco. You should be allowed to have a HID projector with 4300-5000. its not so much about the Law as much as the insurance clauses.
     
  17. Jan 14, 2014 at 12:20 AM
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    I just bought these today to replace the Oem
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    I'll have to drive with them for a while to give you my best judgement
    So far I don't see any benefit over the original Oem
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    Ok so I drove around and they seem to project further down the road
    But not directly I front of the roadway
    I guess I was expecting more not really worth the upgrade

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  18. Jan 14, 2014 at 5:02 PM
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