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RIPP HIGH PERFORMANCE COIL PACKS

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Brostjoe, May 13, 2020.

  1. May 14, 2020 at 6:52 AM
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    OVTune

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    I would like to clarify my position about these coil packs.
    It is possible to run aftermarket coil packs on these trucks. However out of all my years and experience tuning, you should match the proper coil dwell times in the ECU. Improper dwell times can cause weak spark, too much dwell and burn out coils or plugs.
    and in my experience I have personally never seen a coil pack make gains like this. It is of my opinion that OEM toyota coil packs are of excellent design, and even the common toyota yaris coil packs are capable of producing spark under cylinder pressures that can produce 200+ HP per cylinder (tested by Platinum racing products on the RB engine). These guys know things about coils and put them to the test and have proven time and time again that beating OEM coilpacks are few and far between.

    I am only expressing my opinion on this because so many people are asking and want to understand what they are purchasing for their trucks.
     
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  2. May 14, 2020 at 7:08 AM
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    I do wonder, with a proper tune perhaps there is something there. Who's got money to burn and a guy that knows how to tune ECUs??
     
  3. May 14, 2020 at 7:10 AM
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    Unfortunately I have no interest in testing these. I'm already pretty certain of what the outcome is going to be.

    I'd recommend educate yourself on modifications like this.
     
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  4. May 14, 2020 at 7:16 AM
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    I will take that expert experience and call it done then, thanks Mat!
     
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  5. May 14, 2020 at 7:22 AM
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    If the claim had any merit car manufacturers would be lining up with piles of cash instead they are on YouTube marketing to the general public...
     
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  6. May 14, 2020 at 7:28 AM
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    Unless the trade off doesn't justify gains, IE: reliability
     
  7. May 14, 2020 at 10:23 AM
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    I would like to see an independent dyno test done. They did do back to back dyno tests on same truck, same day. Not many vendors have provided more than numbers let alone graphs and videos.
     
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  8. May 14, 2020 at 10:52 AM
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    For those that are thinking about this upgrade, consider this: In order to 'make power' with just a coil change (and no other changes), you would have to be burning 'unburnt' fuel that the stock coils are somehow not able to ignite. If that were the case, your truck would likely currently struggle with emissions testing. This is not the 60's and 70's where a carbureted engine with coil change could actually make a difference. Your engine is running as cleanly as it is ever going to. Yeah, it's cool to say you have 'upgraded' coils but don't let these marketing gimmicks steal your money. I don't know what is going on with their dyno numbers but I would love to see an independent 3rd party validation.
     
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  9. May 14, 2020 at 11:15 AM
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    I've been building racecars for 10 years. Mostly Miatas where we drop every dollar we can to squeeze every ounce of power out of the engine. I have never once needed to upgrade the coil packs for more power, or any other reason. Coil packs are basically amplifiers that take a 12V signal and turn it into a higher voltage signal to ignite a spark plug. Doing that faster, or at a higher voltage doesn't mean more power, it just makes it slightly more efficient.
     
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    I'm all for education....efficient in what way? Possibly igniting the fuel faster??
     
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    power efficiency. Some aftermarket coil packs will heat up less while generating the spark signal, or generate a signal using slightly less total power. Those efficiency gains are minuscule though
     
  12. May 14, 2020 at 12:01 PM
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    there are other benefits in performance applications. For example, in a Miata you can see noticeable coil pack voltage drops when you’re above 7500rpm because the factory coils don’t generate the spark at that high frequency. The fuel cutoff for an OEM motor is at 7400 rpm to avoid that. With coil packs that are capable of running at higher frequency, you can run your engine at a higher RPM, squeezing more performance out of it. That isn’t advisable though, since above 7500 rpm you get other problems like valve float.


    On an otherwise stock, or even modified Tacoma, performance coil packs are a giant waste of money.
     
  13. May 14, 2020 at 12:03 PM
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    a K&N airfilter offers the same amount of HP as these coil packs
     
  14. Jul 2, 2020 at 11:59 PM
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    Well glad I read this... I almost fell for some snake oil. I would still probably consider these once my OEM coil packs fail, but that should be at least 60k more miles.
     
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    Could be a while. I've never had a failure with OEM Toyota coil packs.
     
  16. Jul 3, 2020 at 7:14 AM
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    I’ve been into drag racing for over 20 years and I’ve seen so many magic horsepower bolt-on’s but most make no gains or even go the other direction. The idea that upgraded coil packs on their own make more power is silly in my opinion. Toyota would have been able to up the MPG figures just by using a different coil pack. You don’t think they looked at that? Upgraded coils or other ignition components are helpful in forced induction applications where you can literally “blow” the spark out with high boost but do little on a naturally aspirated engine. Dyno numbers are different run to run. I can put your truck on a dyno today and pick up 15hp tomorrow by doing the same dyno pull when it’s colder out or the density altitude is lower.
     
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    never hear of OEM coil packs biting the dust
     
  18. Jul 4, 2020 at 7:29 PM
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    I replaced all my coil packs on my old 4Runner (2005 w/ 160k miles) when two were bad. I read that 100k is when they usually degrade, but obviously thats going to be case by case.
     
  19. Jul 6, 2020 at 3:55 AM
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    I’d buy oem coils unless there was a known issue with them or the aftermarket ones were significantly cheaper. Anybody remember the fuel saver magnet? Or the swirling intake thingies?
     
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    Personally the magnets are my favorite random thing.
    The second throttle body spacer (I think you are referring to)
     

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