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rear shock bolts.......dab of blue thread locker or dab of anti seize??

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by yarb71, Jul 21, 2020.

  1. Jul 21, 2020 at 10:55 AM
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    yarb71

    yarb71 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Looks to be about 53ft torque. Getting ready to horse these down. Some say Anti Seize ..some say Blue Locktite....

    nobody seems to agree.

    Thoughts? I have both..just wondering which i should use.....

    maybe it doesnt matter....
     
  2. Jul 21, 2020 at 11:45 AM
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    2004Taco

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    I would only use Anti-seize and torque them, then re-torque them after 500 miles. In my opinion, blue loctite is overkill just for the rear shocks. I would only use loctite on more important areas like the front suspension.
     
  3. Jul 21, 2020 at 11:48 AM
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    paetersen

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    SoCal=loctite
    everywhere else=antiseize and pray you can get it undone next time you replace shocks.
     
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  5. Jul 21, 2020 at 12:52 PM
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    yarb71

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    im not sure its that hard to get blue loctite undone. Ive never had an issue. The red stuff is much much stronger but i would never use that anywhere.
     
  6. Jul 21, 2020 at 12:57 PM
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    ToyotaDriver

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    I use anti seize on just about everything that isn’t an internal part of a gear box or engine with a few exceptions here and there. I’d personally put anti seize on the shocks because they take a lot of abuse from mud, water and road grime, but to each their own.
     
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    Anti seize
     
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    My motorcycle is held together by blue loctite, but I hardly touch that tube with the truck. Anti-sneeze all the things.
     
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  9. Jul 21, 2020 at 1:34 PM
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    Wyoming09

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    anti seize and still cut them off
     
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    Amen, Brother!! If I have an exposed bolt end, beyond the nut, I will even paint that with anti-seize. It's just the way of life in the rust belt.
     
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    Nothing on mine and I refuse to.
     
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    I should own stock in anti-seize, use the stuff on everything. Your bits and pieces down below will love you for it.
     
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    yeah a little goes a LONG way. I got a tube 20 years ago.....and i still use it on everything and have plenty left. Probably last the rest of my life.
     
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    Geez I cant imagine putting Loctite on anything. Rust gives me a hard enough time.
     
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    Loc-tite Threadlocker Blue 242 isn't permanent, it's very easy to wrench off. Blue only requires 100 Ft-Lbs of torque to break. It's Red Threadlocker that's permanent and requires torching the bolt to lower required torque from 450 Ft-Lbs to 130 Ft-Lbs.
    Purple threadlocker is only 50 Ft-Lbs but is for smaller fasteners.
    Threadlocker acts as Anti-Seize on bolts, protecting them from corrosion.
    It's honestly beneficial if you have a good impact wrench to breakaway bolts with Blue threadlocker.
    But I don't use threadlocker on my suspension because it messes up torque readings making you have far too much or far to little torque on important suspension parts like U/LCA's, Sway Bars and Links, Shocks, Tie Rods/Track.
    I do use it on Steering parts like the knuckle and shit I don't want to ever come loose or rust inside the threads.
     
  17. Aug 24, 2022 at 8:51 AM
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    Older thread I buy never seize by the case!

    I have never used any thread locker
     
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    Out of curiosity, what kind of Anti-Seize do you use? Frankenstein, Copper, Graphite or Pure Nickel base?

    I'm picking up Nickel Anti-Seize for my rear shocks and Sway Bar links. I normally used Orange hybrid high strength gel threadlocker by Permatex or Blue Loctite 242 for front vital steering bolts and some problem child suspension areas like the Sway Bar Link on my 02 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo.

    The reason I mentioned is that an engineer told me Copper Anti-Seize actually breaks down steel bolts and can cause galling. He advised me to only ever use Nickel either Loctite, Nickel-Graph or Permatex brand
     
  19. Aug 27, 2022 at 6:32 AM
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    Each time I reread these posts I get more and more confused.

    Anti-seize and thread-lock are two different compounds and used for completely different purposes.
     
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    Anti seize you got to use right one on the right metal....basic/copper/nickle....
    Cant use reg anti seize on aluminum....

    Anti seize is a must .......for bicycles......your $400 titanium pedals come with special copper A.S.

    Blue locker you can use on anything, with exception of high temps......stops galvonic....seals the joint/seam.....and over torquing isnt as easy.....

    Alot of times I just use the anti-seize to paint exposed threads on under carriage....
    its the only thing that'll stick to a recently 'fluid flimed' surface.....

    And no arguing here, all of you will do way way better than most of the previous owners....
     
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