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re-keying kit

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Glamisman, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. Feb 19, 2019 at 6:26 AM
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    Glamisman

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    I am looking for a source for a rekeying kit for Tacoma locks. With the number of Tacomas that I own taking all the locks to a locksmith is cost prohibitive. Any one on Tacoma World know of such a kit with all the wafers? I am thinking that one by one I can get all my trucks to use the same one key.


    it took 45 minutes of searching but I think I have found what I am looking for... apx $75 shipped. I will experiment with the kit and see just how different Toyota locks are from others.
     
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  2. Feb 19, 2019 at 12:58 PM
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    I don't know of a re-keying kit you can get other than OEM kit for the truck. Each kit will have a key for it only. The kit will only have the same key for 1 truck worth of locks.
     
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    Let me know how it works out I have Good Friends that are Lock Smiths .

    I re-keyed all my fleet of Toyota`s the work is pulling the cylinders out and putting them back in the rest is simple

    depending the year spread there are different cylinders .
     
  4. Feb 19, 2019 at 6:54 PM
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    I was afraid that I was going to run into an issue like different key profiles or wafer issues but for the $62 for the kit... I will take a chance. I sat in one of my Tacomas and looked... ignition cylinder, gas door, DS & PS door and PS airbag switch. I already bought the ignition cylinder so I will attempt to re-key to that since that key is fresh. I can tell you how many times I have grabbed a set of keys and walked up to a truck just to find out these keys don't fit this truck... this goes for my Ford trucks too.
     
  5. Feb 20, 2019 at 8:53 AM
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    Ha Ha I can relate so well .

    Now days the I leave any strange keys in the ignition
     
  6. Feb 22, 2019 at 9:23 PM
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    Is the key lock set available from a dealer?
    My 95 has 2 keys- 1 for ignition & 1 for the driver door, neither of which fit the passenger side lock. I forgot which works the gas cap (only used once so far).
    I’d love to have only 1 key that works everything.

    PM-inf me info is fine, as I’m still learning-had Taco for only 36 hours so far. I know so little ...
     
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    It might be that you can still buy them from the dealer but being your truck is that old you can only try and see

    no matter what route it will get expensive.you can ask a local automotive locksmith the most practical route.

    unless you can find someone parting out a truck get all three lock cylinders and the keys
     
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    I did a little more Google research and I discovered that not all Tacoma lock cylinders are created equal, some cant be re-keyed.
     
  9. Feb 24, 2019 at 3:57 AM
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    My Lock Smith friends would take that as a challenge .

    Just which ones some of the newer ones ? I could see those being throw away`s

    Marketing ploy We need to sell you all new lock cylinders and with installing them it will come to $999.99 plus tax
     
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    Hi guys, this is kind of an old thread but as a licensed locksmith I thought id chime in. I re-key Toyota ignitions/doors all the time.

    First off check if your vehicle has a transponder chip. If the key has an "L" stamped on the blade (or is just a plain metal key), it is NOT a transponder key. If it has a "G" with a thick plastic head on it, it probably IS. Transponder keys may complicate things depending on what you're trying to do.

    The short answer is, as long as all the vehicles (or locks on a single vehicle) use the same key blank, YES they can be keyed alike (but if multiple vehicle ignitions BOTH/ALL have transponder chips, again it will complicate the procedure slightly...but not much). Take the key you want to use and try to insert it in all the locks/ignitions you want keyed alike. If it fits into the lock (even if it cant TURN the lock) you can key those locks to 1 key. The most common key for Tacoma (and quite a few other Toyotas) is the TR47 also known as an x217. The pinning kit (or wafer kit) can be found at the link below....although I'm not sure if this kit is available in all states to the general public as some require a lock-smithing license to order trade specific parts/tools (admittedly I don't recall if this kit is classified under that heading or simply as automotive tools though). BUT you could probably source it through ebay worse case scenario.

    https://www.clksupplies.com/collect...its/products/toyota-tr47-pinning-kit-a-30-108

    I have NEVER found a vehicle (especially an easy one like a Toyota) that I could not re-key.... and I've worked on nearly everything you can imagine. Its simply that some door locks/most ignitions are not built to be re-keyed and you have to know where and how to get them apart (drilling mostly) and in some cases how to replace some parts that cannot be salvaged through the process of pulling them apart (like some caps on door locks etc, etc). All of these replacement parts are typically available if you know where to look. Although in the case of particularly old (20's-50's) or rare vehicles you may need to fabricate parts, but can sometimes source junkyard donors to attempt to pull from which is the way to go if trying to keep something old OEM.


    The reason you have multiple keys is that someone went the cheap route and bought new door locks for $40-50 and simply swapped out the old ones instead of paying a locksmith to re-key the old ones (or pulled them from junkers at pick&pull). Which likely means your ignition key is waaaay more worn then the door locks and will be the one to worry about failing the soonest. Your going to want to get the ignition re-keyed at some point. When it starts catching and getting harder to turn its on the way out. Definitely take care of it BEFORE it fails or it will be much more expensive. When you do the ignition buy a new set of door locks that come keyed alike and then have the ignition keyed to THAT key....its your cheapest solution. Doing ignitions isn't recommended for the beginner unless particularly mechanically savvy. You can cause more damage then its worth either to the column or the ignition itself.

    P.S. Take the ignition to a locksmith directly for re-key, not a mechanic. The locksmith will charge around $100-150 (including removing it from the vehicle) while the mechanic will simply remove it from the vehicle and drop it off at the locksmith FOR YOU and then turn around and charge $300-500. Mechanics rarely to never do locks themselves in my experience.
     
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    Door Locks Are Easy!


    1. Pulling door locks out of a 1st gen Tacoma (or most any Toyota) couldn't be easier. Pull the panel, remove the throw arm from the plastic clip on the tail piece of the lock, remove 2 bolts and its out of the door. Takes about 5-10 minutes.

    2. When you go to re-key it make sure you're using a fresh key without wear on it so the cuts are nice and clean. I would highly recommend removing the split-wafers from the lock altogether as they "knife edge" keys over time and are responsible for 60% of key wear. Which once sharp proceeds to ruin the OTHER wafers in the lock every time you reinsert that sharpened key in the lock. They are supposedly an anti-picking mechanism but I've NEVER met or heard of anyone but a trained locksmith who could pick a car door...its just not going to happen. A thief will bust or wedge your window. Just take the damn things out. This does decrease the security, but there's usually only one set of split wafers. There are 8 wafers in the door with 4 depths, theoretically 65,536 combinations. By dropping one wafer you go to 7 pins, or 16,384 combinations, That's a big drop, but it's still a lot of keys to try out. Ten wafers in the ignition gives 1,048,576 theoretical combinations, dropping a wafer gives 262,144 theoretical combinations. The numbers are theoretical because of the Maximum adjacent cut specifications or MACS, where you can't cut too deep a cut next to a shallow cut or you'll change the depth of the shallow cut. ....AAAAAAnyway....

    3. You will need to pull the cap off the front of the lock. It is usually just crimped on around the underside edges. Take care here as its extremely easy to fuck the cap up when removing and if you don't have a replacement it will at the least look pretty fugly after reuse.

    4. Pull the "C" clip on the bottom of the lock and start to disassemble...basic auto work rules apply...lay out each part in a row so you know which goes back on in what order. Once the cap, clip and tail piece are off, to remove the plug from the housing and access the wafers you will need to insert a WORKING key to make the wafers flush with the plug so it can be removed from the housing.

    5. Explaining the "Cuts" or pinning of the key/wafer would be an unnecessary lesson and ya'll won't have the tools/data bases anyway. There are only 4 wafer sizes for TR47 (not including splits) so just put one in, test the key, once you find the wafer that sits flush in the plug with the key inserted move on to the next wafer, rinse repeat until done.

    6. I like to use lithium grease on the wafers and then when all back together use the key to move more grease into the lock so as to grease the wafers from both sides. You can also use Tri-Flow for normal periodical lubrication. NEVER spray graphite or WD-40 into a lock...it may help in the moment but will make the problem worse shortly there after. If a lock is particularly gunky hit it with a blast of carb cleaner to flush it out, wait till dry and then use Tri-flow. Do NOT hose down an ignition...you can seriously fry some newer ones.

    Pulling door locks out of 2nd gen Tacoma is even easier as the cylinder access has been moved behind a removable round rubber plug in the side of the door. 2 bolts and the side arm are right there and it pops right out the front. takes 60 seconds.

    Pulling an ignition is harder and requires a bit more specialized knowledge...I will NOT go over how to do that as I'm not keen on teaching people how to boost cars.
     
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