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R150F Input Shaft Length Different

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Kansas TRD Taco, Nov 24, 2017.

  1. Nov 24, 2017 at 10:06 AM
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    Kansas TRD Taco

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    Long story, but I am swapping out a rebuilt Marlin Crawler Transmission for another Marlin unit. The first one, they messed up the rebuild and its popping out of 5th gear. They sent me another rebuilt unit.

    Pulled the bad unit and went to install the new. Everything looks the same, but the input shaft lengths are different. Old style is about 6.5 inches long. The new unit is only about 5 inches. I don't see how the new one would work being that different.

    Can someone confirm that the new one will or will not work? Is the one they just sent me for a different year, maybe the older style of '88-'95 and not the '95-'04?

    Thanks
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  2. Nov 27, 2017 at 9:23 AM
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    Bump....anyone?? I'm pretty confident it wont fit/work, but want to confirm since the truck is sitting on jack stands at the moment and I need to get this thing rolling again. I cant get a hold of anyone at Marlin.....
     
  3. Nov 27, 2017 at 9:35 AM
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  4. Nov 28, 2017 at 12:48 PM
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    Did you ever get this resolved? I ordered a transmission from Marlin over 2 months ago. I am still waiting. Was told 4 weeks now I am at over 2 months. Just curious of your experience.
     
  5. Nov 28, 2017 at 8:11 PM
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    so i'm guessing r150f are rare
     
  6. Nov 29, 2017 at 5:35 AM
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    Wouldn't say they are rare. 1st gen tacomas had them behind the v6
     
  7. Nov 29, 2017 at 8:06 AM
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    I am still working with Marlin to get the issue resolved. I was finally able to speak to someone at Marlin yesterday (they are closed Fridays, closed on the weekend and didn't take calls Monday b/c of cyber Monday). They confirmed that they sent me a transmission from a '88-'95 by mistake the second time. I was told by the sales guy that the first rebuild error I had was very rare and to have a second error(bad rebuild and then sent the wrong transmission) is crazy rare for them. Maybe I am just a super unlucky guy.....

    After all this, I don't feel good about the whole experience. I could live with the first mistake in the rebuild(stuff happens and people make mistakes), but the second mistake was carelessness and should not have happened.

    I will say the sales guy Trevor is great to deal with and wanted to make it right after both of the errors.

    I should receive another fresh rebuild next week some time. Really hoping its the right transmission and rebuild is all correct as I am very much over this fiasco and without a truck until then. :fingerscrossed:
     
  8. Nov 29, 2017 at 8:21 AM
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    yeah I know that the 1st gens had 5spd's, just hard to find. When you aren't looking for them anymore something pops up.
     
  9. Nov 29, 2017 at 5:17 PM
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    I hear ya. I have spoke with Trevor several times. My issue is I was told 4 weeks on the phone when I originally ordered the transmission. I ordered every upgrade they offer for the trans. I keep getting told another 2 weeks every time I call. If I had been told up front 3 months or whatever I would have had no issue.
     
  10. Nov 29, 2017 at 6:40 PM
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    Somehow the importance of communication is lost on too many businesses. I quit doing business with a diesel mechanic for my boat because he was unable to communicate simple things like that. I'm having some of the same trouble with my Toyota dealer with my frame now. The shop I use for the stuff I refuse to wrench myself seems unable to call with updates. All I need is a phone call with the status. Proactively. Don't make me call you and ask. It's really simple, takes a minute at most, and makes me grateful.
     
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  11. Nov 29, 2017 at 7:30 PM
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    I agree. I keep getting that one of the guys that builds the transmission had to have surgery for some reason. I understand that puts them down. But at least keep me updated. They won’t even respond to my emails now. Very frustrated but they do build a nice transmission from what I am told. First experience with the transmission. Wish some of there guys were on tacomaworld.
     
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  12. Dec 5, 2017 at 5:25 AM
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    Got your replacement transmission yet?
     
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  13. Dec 5, 2017 at 11:32 AM
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    Transmission is supposed to be delivered today. Cant install it until this weekend
     
  14. Dec 5, 2017 at 3:32 PM
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    I'm at 10 weeks on my transmission. Hoping to get it soon.
     
  15. Dec 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM
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    Wow that blows!!

    When my stock trans blew up they shipped mine in a week:D..

    That same trans 20kish miles later is currently sitting on my trans jack out of the truck after the input shaft seal blew out. I think it's because of a shitty 40k mile old Marlin pilot bearing that seized up and failed.
     
  16. Dec 5, 2017 at 4:43 PM
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    Man I'm not getting good feelings about this whole situation.
     
  17. Dec 5, 2017 at 4:45 PM
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    Junkyard units with 100k+ miles go for $1500+ around here so I'm still ahead I guess.

    What happened to your stock trans?
     
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  18. Dec 5, 2017 at 4:49 PM
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    I was in deep water during a flood about a year ago. Water was up to the headlights (yes all this was stupid) and I was moving along just fine. Backend kicked out I literally snatched it from 1st to 2nd never touched the clutch and got on the accelerator pretty good. Ended up crunching the synchros. However I did make it out alive and the truck survived minus the starter which I replaced.
     
  19. Dec 5, 2017 at 5:09 PM
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    That would do it! Mine leaked all it's fluid out the rear output into my crawl box due to a bad seal and it popped out of gear at a light, checked the fluid and dry. After that It would pop out of 1st and 2nd and spew all it's fluid out the back. I drove it like that for a month. Marlin's trans guy said I did the most damage he has ever seen to a Toyota trans that still drove LOL.

    In the defense of the new trans, I think the input seal went out due to a few factors, not really due to quality.
     
  20. Dec 5, 2017 at 5:52 PM
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    I've heard those ecoseals they use are junk and to go back with toyota seals.
     

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