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Pilot Bearing recommendations for 4L V6 and 6 spd manual

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by toyotommy, Sep 21, 2023.

  1. Sep 21, 2023 at 3:13 PM
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    Been trying to find a pilot bearing to install with my exedy clutch release bearing (to no avail). Any recommended distributors/brands? Can't even seem to find an OEM option from the stealership. Thanks.
     
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    Don't forget to replace the front transmission shaft bearing seal and the rear main crank bearing seal. Those also require dropping the tranny and removing the flywheel and clutch to replace, you don't want to have to do that again for a while. You're also replacing the release bearing as well as the pilot bearing, right?
     
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    Follow up: seems like the RA60F doesn't have a pilot bearing...
     
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    Correct, there is no pilot bearing on the 6 spd trans.
     
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    Ya can find a bearing because it doesn't have one! Went away with the 5 speeds.
     
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    Thanks all. Probably why the throwout bearings are so notorious for failing...
     
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    Well the shaft turns the same speed as the engine so the only time a crank bearing does any thing is when you are at a dead stop with your foot on the clutch. I was taught not to do that 62 years ago.
     
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    Some GM stuff used the same trans as the Tacoma with no bearing either. I guess the bottom line is you don't hear about these transmission exploding in a million pieces and there a tons of them out there. 150K on mine works as it did when it was new. The release bearing noise has nothing to do with a pilot bearing.
     
  11. Sep 23, 2023 at 3:04 PM
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    there is failure because Toyota did not make the sleeve replaceable like every other manufacturer for 18 years in a row (05-23)
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    the amount of Tacomas in manual is extremely small compared to automatic
    most if not all RA60_ have had TOB issues

    a properly driven streetcar clutch can last 200-300k mi
    then have the sleeve replaced while changing the clutch
    TOB's often last less than a clutch (not to mention hard truck use) and damage the sleeve
     
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  13. Sep 23, 2023 at 10:48 PM
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    The TOB issue also stem from constant dragging on the clutch plate correct? Pretty sure gearcruncher mentioned something about finicky tolerances causing that issue.
     
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    Well from what you are saying every one single one has had to replace the bearing and sleeve? I'm at 150K I tow a 18 foot camper I plow snow with it. I will say from day one the release bearing in the dead of a Maine winter rattled, warm nothing (foot off the peddle) still working fine. What does Toyota have to say about it? Have they posted any TSB's?
     
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    I mean. There can be preload depending on adjustment. And adjustment is done at the pedal. That is one finicky part. There’s a rod and nuts behind the pedal to adjust bite. Part of the clutch master cyl that’s likely worn out by now too.

    Toyota has not made a fix.
    Pulling a trailer doesn’t change the fact it was designed badly.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they use the same bad design on 4th gen manuals.
    From what I’ve seen 1st gen and prior doesn’t have this problem.
     
  16. Sep 24, 2023 at 4:35 PM
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    I found this thread very enlightening https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...on-your-6-speed-transmissiom-write-up.338840/. Some of the links are broken but still tons of info on TSBs, clutch adjustments, and fixes Toyota made to the RA60/6-spd.
     
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