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Only will start with starting fluid

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by T4life, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. Mar 26, 2020 at 12:24 PM
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    My 1995 Tacoma with the 2.7. will only start with starting fluid after I replaced the head gasket. After it starts with starting fluid it runs great and has no issues. I have replaced the battery, fuel pump, plugs, wires, distributor, fuel pressure regulator. Cleaned throttle Once it starts with starting fluid it runs and drives great. Please help????
     
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  2. Mar 26, 2020 at 12:36 PM
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    Be Advised : Starting fluid is for Diesel Engines Only, and can damage your Gas engine, if you have to start your engine this way, use WD40 only, it works and is cheaper.
    once the engine spins and builds oil pressure bypassing the relay and energizing the fuel pump and continuing to run points to a relay or wiring problem.
    Good Luck
     
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  3. Mar 26, 2020 at 12:39 PM
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    I thought starting fluid could only be used on carbureted engines; I guess I was wrong!
     
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  4. Mar 26, 2020 at 12:53 PM
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    It is a common mistake, "starting Fluid" is much to harsh in gas engines can cause broken rings, and it can detonate in the crankcase in rare cases.
     
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    Well damnit man. If that’s the case, my 96’ F-150 should’ve blew up. I had to do that casing down a fuel pump problem for a month cause it was All I had to drive. Lol

    Edit: I’d take a look at the relays and see if it’s something small you might be missing as well as a ground maybe. Good luck.
     
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  6. Mar 26, 2020 at 2:40 PM
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    Bullshit. You're not supposed to use ether on diesel engines. The myth is that diesels get addicted.
    You can use ether AKA starting fluid on any gas engine 2 or 4 stroke.
     
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    Check the Circuit open relay it sounds like the contacts that should be closed at cranking are not

    Starts with the Fluid the run set pulls in and keeps it running
     
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    I agree, if the diesel has glow plugs, I've always been told not to use starting fluid on it. As far as that myth, I've never understood how an engine could get "addicted " to anything.
     
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    Exactly but it’s perfect for huffing... ehhh
     
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    Ever hear of a gadget called a PCV valve? It stands for Positive-Crankcase-Ventilaton. That little doohickey removes combustibles that slip by the rings. Typically they have a hose going from them to a vaccuum port on the carb or throttle body so it can be burned in the combustion cycle. Where you heard that it can accumulate and ignite in the crankcase sounds like a muffler bearings tale.
     
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    Muffler bearings and addicted engines, Toto were not in Kansas anymore, how about broken and or damaged spark plugs from using Diesel starting fluid in a gas engine ?
     
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    Geeeezus, poor guy just wanted to ask a question
     
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    Check the coolant temp sensor and temp sensor wiring.
    Its the other way around. Ether won't detonate in a gasoline engine until the spark plug fires. There isnt enough compression to light it off sooner than normal.

    Diesels however have much more compression and the fuel (whatever fuel you're feeding it) has to be introduced at the perfect time to avoid detonation. The compression ratio is high enough that the air/ether mixture will explode well before the piston finishes its upstroke.. risking detonation and the piston damage that comes with it
     
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    @T4life Hope you haven't been confused by all you have read hear.......Good Luck
     
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    Some years ago I had an issue where my 3.4 would turn over for a long time before it would start. After some failed troubleshooting I bought a fuel pressure gauge and found that I did not have fuel pressure on the fuel rail after turning off the engine. My understanding was that the fuel pressure regulator was not doing its job and letting the fuel in the rail drain back to the gas tank. I bought an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator and still had the problem. I ordered the regulator from Toyota, installed it, and the truck has started right up ever since.

    Also, one time I forgot to put one of the grounding straps back on a 3.0 liter lexus and got Air Fuel mixture codes. It might be worth checking the ground if you have not already.
     
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    Your having a fuel pump issue. Relay or more likely pump.


    Starter fluid is for gas engines. WD40 is for diesels.

    Truth.
     
  17. Mar 28, 2020 at 5:55 AM
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    Starter fluid is for potato cannons and wd-40 is great for removing stickahs
     

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