1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Oil filter leak

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by pdeinc, Apr 22, 2023.

  1. Apr 22, 2023 at 11:22 AM
    #1
    pdeinc

    pdeinc [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2021
    Member:
    #377365
    Messages:
    171
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ken
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD 4x4 Sport
    ARE Z topper, Roadmaster baseplate, Remco DS disconnect
    I hate that the old expression of "if you want something done right, do it yourself" keeps proving to be accurate. I had the oil & filter changed last week at one of the quick change places. This was the second time I went there and I wasn't confident they actually changed the filter the first time as they were simply too quick from beginning to end. This time I got out of the truck and walked around front to watch the tech in the pit change the filter and it took much longer than my first experience. At that point, I was considering going back to doing it myself altho I dislike what it takes on these trucks.

    Anyway, I took a two hour trip across the state and halfway there, my low oil warning came on! I got off the interstate and looked underneath and there was oil everywhere! I was truly pissed but couldn't do anything about it at that point other than adding two quarts of oil and continue my trip. Before heading back, I bought two more quarts which I also had to add by the time I got home.

    So today I've dropped the skid plate, wiped the filter housing clean and cranked the engine up to see exactly where the oil is coming from. It quickly began streaming down one side of the housing. The filter drain plug was in tight and as I removed the filter, it was obvious it was in tight as well. I find no damage to the oil ring so am at a loss as to where the oil leak is. I don't see any gasket on the flange of the housing where it seats to the housing and wonder if that's correct?

    Any ideas?
     
  2. Apr 22, 2023 at 11:32 AM
    #2
    DTaco18

    DTaco18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Member:
    #270030
    Messages:
    978
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD SPORT DCSB 6AT MGM
    If the plastic is not cracked, then the o-ring is either missing, damaged, or in the wrong location.
    o-ring.jpg
     
    HondaGM, pdxTacoSR5, texbaz and 6 others like this.
  3. Apr 22, 2023 at 11:35 AM
    #3
    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Member:
    #202672
    Messages:
    13,926
    First Name:
    Alex
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB
    This^^
     
    HondaGM, Speedbird and 908tacoma like this.
  4. Apr 22, 2023 at 11:37 AM
    #4
    RichochetRabbit

    RichochetRabbit Ping Ping Ping

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2023
    Member:
    #419488
    Messages:
    5,769
    Rubber/silicone changes with age. Maybe the tech moved the gasket accidentally because it is easily moved?
     
    HondaGM likes this.
  5. Apr 22, 2023 at 11:39 AM
    #5
    pdeinc

    pdeinc [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2021
    Member:
    #377365
    Messages:
    171
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ken
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD 4x4 Sport
    ARE Z topper, Roadmaster baseplate, Remco DS disconnect
    It's an aluminum housing and the O ring is in the correct location - hence my puzzlement. It shouldn't be leaking! But I just noticed that pictures of housings show a perforated tube in the center - mine does not. Is that a mid-generation change. I also noticed that the oil drain doesn't drain any oil - the bottom of the inside of the housing appears to have a flat washer.
     
  6. Apr 22, 2023 at 11:41 AM
    #6
    pdeinc

    pdeinc [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2021
    Member:
    #377365
    Messages:
    171
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ken
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD 4x4 Sport
    ARE Z topper, Roadmaster baseplate, Remco DS disconnect
    I may be assuming too much but it was my assumption that the o-ring is changed with the filter. Perhaps mine is substandard owing to where the job was done. The filter certainly looks cheap.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2023
  7. Apr 22, 2023 at 11:44 AM
    #7
    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Member:
    #202672
    Messages:
    13,926
    First Name:
    Alex
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB
    Is the o-ring flat? It needs to be round and pliable
     
    HondaGM and pdeinc[OP] like this.
  8. Apr 22, 2023 at 12:14 PM
    #8
    zoo truck

    zoo truck Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2020
    Member:
    #325379
    Messages:
    8,950
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2020 quicksand sr5 tacoma
    None
    If you use the wrong tool to remove that filter housing, good chance you can crack it.
     
    HondaGM and 908tacoma like this.
  9. Apr 22, 2023 at 12:22 PM
    #9
    DTaco18

    DTaco18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Member:
    #270030
    Messages:
    978
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD SPORT DCSB 6AT MGM
    If you're missing the center tube, then you're most likely not filtering any oil. If you have an aftermarket housing, sometimes the tubes can be removed. Either way, if you dont have the spring loaded bypass valve in the bottom then you're oil filter isn't doing anything. Go buy an OEM housing and new oil filter and problems will be solved.
    Screenshot_20230422_152514_eBay.jpg
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2023
  10. Apr 22, 2023 at 12:23 PM
    #10
    RichochetRabbit

    RichochetRabbit Ping Ping Ping

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2023
    Member:
    #419488
    Messages:
    5,769
    Assumptions do not help. Verify the filter housing with a controlled test submersed in fluid (seems a good test), replace with Toyota brand if broken.

    Get 2 new gaskets from Toyota directly for future oil changes you will do yourself.

    Cheaper than an engine rebuild.
     
    HondaGM likes this.
  11. Apr 22, 2023 at 2:46 PM
    #11
    pdeinc

    pdeinc [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2021
    Member:
    #377365
    Messages:
    171
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ken
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD 4x4 Sport
    ARE Z topper, Roadmaster baseplate, Remco DS disconnect
    I suspect the tech at the oil change place removed it along with the old filter. But its function is to keep the filter from collapsing under pressure, has nothing to do with the filtering. The bypass valve is still in place.
     
  12. Apr 22, 2023 at 2:52 PM
    #12
    2021SR5V64WD

    2021SR5V64WD Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2021
    Member:
    #360995
    Messages:
    3,420
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 SR5 V6 4WD ACCESS CAB
    5-minute oil change - you get what you pay for.

    Find a good mechanic near you who knows what they are doing. Get to know 'em. Bring 'em some cookies or something.
     
    908tacoma likes this.
  13. Apr 22, 2023 at 4:00 PM
    #13
    DTaco18

    DTaco18 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Member:
    #270030
    Messages:
    978
    Vehicle:
    2020 TRD SPORT DCSB 6AT MGM
    I understand, but the OEM perf tubes are not removable, so if it's missing from an OEM housing you're in trouble. Dorman and other aftermarket housings come with several length tubes. That must be what you have. Some people have had quick lubes throw the entire perforated tube, spring, bypass assembly away and set a filter loosely in the housing. At least you don't have that...

    Dorman Housing:
    Screenshot_20230422_184950_Chrome.jpg
     
    pdeinc[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  14. Apr 22, 2023 at 4:15 PM
    #14
    pdeinc

    pdeinc [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2021
    Member:
    #377365
    Messages:
    171
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ken
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD 4x4 Sport
    ARE Z topper, Roadmaster baseplate, Remco DS disconnect
    I'm far more skilled then you're assuming, just at an age where I don't want to do every mundane task myself.
     
  15. Apr 22, 2023 at 4:20 PM
    #15
    908tacoma

    908tacoma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Member:
    #268429
    Messages:
    1,086
    New Jersey
    Vehicle:
    2018 MGM
    OME, SPC, TRD
    time to reconsider
     
    HondaGM and pdeinc[QUOTED][OP] like this.
  16. Apr 22, 2023 at 5:04 PM
    #16
    brian2sun

    brian2sun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2020
    Member:
    #347119
    Messages:
    1,164
    Gender:
    Male
    California
    Vehicle:
    ‘21 TRD OR DCSB ‘17 4Runner Limited ‘97 4Runner SR5
    The OEM perf tube is removable… there’s a tab or 2 to bend out of the way, twist it, and it comes right out. But, they aren’t held in all that strong with those tabs, so if a walmart or jiffy lube moron pulls on the filter too hard while twisting a little bit, the whole thing can come out. I suspect that’s what happened, and it wasn’t noticed, so they just threw a new paper filter loosely in there and half-assedly threaded it back in, not tight enough to make a seal. I noticed if you don’t put a liberal amount of oil on that big o-ring, the filter can get pretty tight with friction way before it’s screwed in all the way (like 2-3 turns shy of tight). I can see a rando $14/hr. lube “tech” putting a dry o-ring on and thinking it was tight when it still had a long way to go.
     
    HondaGM, Rusty66 and usmc2msu like this.
  17. Apr 22, 2023 at 5:13 PM
    #17
    RichochetRabbit

    RichochetRabbit Ping Ping Ping

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2023
    Member:
    #419488
    Messages:
    5,769
    Considering the cost/inconvenience of an engine rebuild ... time to re-think that position.
     
    Hunter gatherer and HondaGM like this.
  18. Apr 22, 2023 at 5:23 PM
    #18
    pdeinc

    pdeinc [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2021
    Member:
    #377365
    Messages:
    171
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ken
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRD 4x4 Sport
    ARE Z topper, Roadmaster baseplate, Remco DS disconnect
    Oh absolutely! Am I to understand that the TRD skid plates have an access panel? Part of my dislike of this job is having to remove that each time. I can deal with canister oil filters, dealt with one on my 65 Vette for years.
     
  19. Apr 22, 2023 at 5:26 PM
    #19
    RichochetRabbit

    RichochetRabbit Ping Ping Ping

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2023
    Member:
    #419488
    Messages:
    5,769
    TRD Pro plate has an access for both drain plug and filter. RCI front plate has both as well. Not sure about other brands. People tell me the only time I NEED to remove the RCI front skid is to service the front differential.
     
  20. Apr 22, 2023 at 5:31 PM
    #20
    TacoTime55

    TacoTime55 TT58

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2021
    Member:
    #378314
    Messages:
    9,204
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ed
    Delaware
    Vehicle:
    2021 Midnight Black TRD Sport AT/DCSB
    TRD Lift,OTT Tune, LED HLs,TRDSkid, TalonCAT
    I didn't install the Aluminum housing unit but I did put the o-ring where it was located on the OEM Plastic--right above that solid area.

    [​IMG]
     

Products Discussed in

To Top