New Wheels and Tires having more vibration then stock.

Recently got new 17" Black Rhino Wheels and 265/70 Nitto Terra Grappler G2 tires. Installed them a few days ago and notices some vibrations in the truck when driving. I bought the set from Discount Tire Direct at a great price and a few weeks shopping around. I had requested that they be "force road tested" to make sure all vibrations are addressed that normal balance procedure could not detect.

I have had my Toytect 3" lift for a few months and was ready for the next step with wheels and upgraded with tires. After the lift I was still running stock wheels and tires and felt little to no vibrations. Now with the upgrade I feel more vibrations than before. I don't mind the noise from the tires just the shake in the bod and steering wheel of my truck.

Anyone have this happen to them?

Thanks for the help!

 

Similar problem. If you can read my older posts you'll see I was having issues as well. Long story short. With new wheels was "hub centri rings" installed? Google it and you'll see what I am talking about.

 

Welcome to Tacoma World!

This forum is covered in posts about "vibrations solved!" And they all have a different solution. There are many many factors that can cause vibrations and what works for one person may not work for the other. I have been through more vibrations then you can imagine and just about every solution possible. It wasnt until 1 week ago that i finally solved mine after several years.

If your vibes started after your new wheel tire setup, its safe to say that this isnt caused by driveshaft length or balancing, center support bearing, rear axle and driveline angles, or even defective brakes or warped rotors. We can narrow your problems down to the front end at the wheels.

Steering wheel vibes can be caused by alignment or wheel balance. Vibes in the seat and floor or usually driveline or alignmemt related. You would be surprised what a slight alignment issue can cause. Did you get your alignment done after the new setup? If not, that needs to be done. New wheels and tires affect alignment because of the small changes in tread and wheel position. It is important that your caster be as high as possible, as higher caster results in a more stable wheel which helps counteract and control balance problems associated with larger heavier tires.

After alignment and proper adjustment, if vibes still exist, i would refer back to balance. A road force balance simply applies force to the wheel to simulate the road for a better balance, but may not be your solution. Depending on the shops machine, itll recommend a static or dynamic balance or the tech will decide. Static balance is more common because it requires much less weight then dynamic. Static however only balances the tire on a single axis and corrects heavy spots on the center of the tread to prevent up and down vibrations. Bigger tires though tend to have offset heavy spots on the edge of the tire or on the side. To fix that, a dynamic balance is needed which balances the tires on 3 axises instead of one. No special equipment required, just a tech that knows what they are doing. They will use a combination of stick on weights inside the wheel close to the spokes as possible and the hammer on weights on the far inside lip. This corrects off centered balance issues and is usually needed for larger tires. The downside is it may require a ton of weight which is ugly and gets stacked up. In some cases it may not even fit so the shop will really push hard to keep only a static balance.

If after alignemt and dynamic balance your problems still exist, rotoate front and back wheels. If it goes away, you may have a defective tire that was in the front and now in then rear.

Before doing any of this though it is important that you are using the correct lug nuts and or a hub centric ring. I think our hub size is 106mm (i may be wrong on that so double check me) and if your wheel is 108 or 110 etc youll need a 2 or 4mm hib centric ring to correct the new wheels to match the hub. Its also crushial to use acorn style lug nuts. Not just thin spline drive, but make sure they are acorn shape to help center the wheel.

If none of this helps, it could be brake or driveline issues that are just now noticeable because they were increased or aggrevated by the new tire setup.

Good luck

 

Proforce, good read. Thought I ruined my Tacoma with a 4" lift, larger wheels etc. My tacoma started to shake at about 40 mph. That was corrected with hub centric rings. The pulling to the right finally stopped after installing upper A-arms. The lift that was installed did not include upper A-arms. All said and done my tacoma is back on the road and off road and doing great. Sure wish I read your post a year ago. Would of stopped me from pulling my hair out! lol
Take care.

 

Proforce thank you for the in-depth info. Hub centric rings will be my next try. Any recommendations where to get such an item? I do have acorn nuts so that's off the list. But have not done the alignment after the new wheels and tires. I did after the lift though. I hope I do not have a defective tire. But we'll see. Thanks again! Your a big help!

 

Google "Hub Centric Rings." This is the website where I got my rings. http://us.hubcentric-rings.com
Get the rings installed before doing an alignment or else you are wasting your time and money. I swear....I had my truck aligned at least six or more times. The shop that done the lift was pissed at me! "Fuk him!" If he installed the upper a-arms my truck wouldn't pulled to the right and had he installed the hub rings ( after I bought my Fuel beast wheels from him as well) the bouncing and shanking wouldn't of existed. Pull one side of your wheels off the front of your tacoma. No ring on aftermarket wheels... that is your problem. Please let me know how you fixed this issue. ttyl

 

How do I know what size to get? The measurements? 106mm - by ?
Aluminum or plastic?

 

Check out the web link I forward to you. It will explain to you better than I can. Basically, the purpose of the ring is properly aligned your wheel when tighten the lugs. I got plastic. It was something like $45 for all four! Expensive but well worth it. Note: When ever you have someone else work on your truck, tires beside they are informed to not lose and reinstalled. Happen to me at Discount Tire already when I had my tires rotated.

 

Sorry.... was have difficult post last comment. Freaking internet service.....
Check out the web link I forward to you. It will explain to you better than I can. Basically, the purpose of the ring is properly aligned your wheel when tighten the lugs. I got plastic. It was something like $45 for all four! Expensive but well worth it. Note: When ever you have someone else work on your truck, tires informed them to not lose and to reinstalled the hub rings. Happen to me at Discount Tire already when I had my tires rotated.

 

It can be something small. 1oz at 1100 rpm weighs 7lbs

 

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Nice info! Good to know if I decide to go aftermarket... thanks!

 

Oh, I just re-read your first post. Sorry,...... I see you are still running original wheels. I am sorry... my problem was after market wheels. I believe the original wheels do not require hun rings. No, I have no idea what will work for you. Good luck fixing your issue. Cheers

 

No I am running after market wheels. I just stated that when I got my lift I was still running stock 16" wheels and 245 tires with no vibrations. After upgrading to 17" wheels and 265 tires I noticed more vibrations then I think was normal. Even with being more hyper sensitive because of the change.
I'll be getting the hub rings this week and will let you know if there was an improvement.
Thanks again.

 

Wow I am an idiot I just got new wheels and tires about a month ago and I threw those rings out I thought it was something they just stuck in there for shipping

 

Where did you get your wheels? Trying to find a supplier for hub rings.

 

Tire rack

 

Well I found them I guess I didn't throw them out they gave me 4 green ones hr106.25-87.1 and for black ones hr106.25-78.1 how do I know witch ones to use? booth fit inside the rims and both fit up agains the hub but neither go into or over the hub.

 

Just finished watching this video neither of my rings fits over the hub.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Myk864Wiio

 

Okay I'm guessing I don't need them my wheel seems to already fit tight over the Hub