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MID TRAVEL. What does it consist of?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Deertay, Aug 8, 2018.

  1. Aug 8, 2018 at 12:15 PM
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    Deertay

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    Yeah I know, basic noob question. Let’s face it still a lot to learn.
    I went to 4 wheel parts and asked for information on long travel and if it would be right for me. Instead they suggested mid travel, I guess I could’ve just asked them but I prefer your knowledge over theirs. So what is it exactly? Do they include longer lcas and what nots?
    What would be a good brand to go with?
     
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    Midtravel is essentially in between stock and long travel. It's a loose term to me. Parts should include upper control arms, longer front coilovers, longer rear shocks, new leaf pack, extended rear brake lines.

    The only difference I see between a suspension lift and mid travel is quality of parts and usually a leaf pack instead of an add-a-leaf.

    Someone please correct me if I'm totally wrong
     
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    Most of the pieces I see marketed as "mid travel" are basically "stock, but we added an inch or so of shock travel." Very easy to do on the rear, but the front suspension can only move so far before it starts running into itself.
     
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  4. Aug 8, 2018 at 1:03 PM
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    That honesty just sounds like lifting it right to me, I can see why you say loose term.
    I was under the impression that lcas would be somewhere between long and stock. Lol
     
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    LCAs can stay stock, normally new UCAs are needed to adjust for caster
     
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    Thank you guys
     
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    You only Need lcas if your are either going long travel (longer length) or are adding secondary shocks and need additional mounting points. You might want stock lcas if you want a beefier component in case of obstacle impacts, but reality is a lca skid would be a much more cost effective solution.

    IMO, if you are buying stock length lcas, you should have gone long travel.
     
  8. Aug 9, 2018 at 10:13 PM
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    Yeah I might just do that instead and hopefully find a better dealer cause 4wp just doesn’t send very helpfull.
     
  9. Aug 9, 2018 at 10:22 PM
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    4wp sucks for anything outside of a bro lift, just fyi
     
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    Lol I can’t knock on that I currently have the Cali lean / bro lean unless you’re talking about blocks and spacers in which case yeah, fuck that I won’t put that in my truck.
     
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    you prob have the "tacoma lean" haha (not sure what cali/bro lean is exactly). but yes, I am referring to 6 inch blocks and/or a drop bracket lift

    EDIT: taco lean is sagging on the driver side due in part to the battery and fuel tank being on both side and driver in vehicle. Lean gets slightly better as fuel is consumed, but it never goes away. Requires like a 1/4" spacer or MT/shocks that can be adjusted to offset the driver side.
     
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    Got my ARB bumper from them for a really great price. I know we’re talking suspension, but I don’t have a bad word to say about em.
     
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    Glad you had a good experience :thumbsup:. Hopefully if you do anymore with them, it stays that way!

    Of course, I am speaking generalities and you’re right, bolting on a bumper is not quite the same as talking different suspension options and what works best for X desires/wants. A lot of them have jeeps too, solid axles, and don’t dive too heavy in the IFS world. Also not saying they are bad people, they’ll just tel you what you want to hear to make a sale :D
     
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    Yeah I’ve heard of the taco lean it’s not that lol.
    Cali/bro lean Is when the rake is reversed and the front sits higher then the rear. Looked good at first but I’m ready to level it out the right way, forget about blocks ha!
     
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    My only complaint is the stuff they carry and the stuff they refuse to work with.
    And I’ve had situations where I’ve went in hoping to get a BDS set up with Fox shocks and coil overs and they replied we don’t use BDS and don’t have packages at that price but we can get you something close with a rancho kit...
    It’s like a time when I went to purchase a wrangler long before buying my truck, and the dealership didn’t want to budge on giving me the deal I knew I could’ve got but instead offered me a “sweet deal” on a 4x4 liberty.
     
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    Damn i see so many people here in SOCAL with the “bro lean”. I didnt know it had a name hahah
     
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    There is really no such thing as mid travel. Just like there is really no such thing as extended shocks. You either have long travel or you don't, you either have a short shock or you don't.

    Generally speaking mid travel means you have aftermarket shocks with new UCAs. Extended shocks are nothing more than an internal spacer/washer that is removed to give about 0.5" more of travel. I have them and I don't call them extended, I have UCA, I don't call it mid travel.

    They are buzzwords to sound cool. People can all it want they want but whatever
     
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    I am running a mid travel setup.

    Stock, tacomas are about 8-9in of "travel".

    I am at 12in up front, and almost 14 in the rear. I have gotten rid of the restrictive bushings, and swapped all connections out to heims on stock length dirt king arms with a king c/o. I have deaver spring unders in the rear, with an archive shackle flip and 14in smooth bodys.

    That being said, a lot of people will try and hype up packages as "mid travel" to get an extra few bucks. What was part of their recommended "kit", anyhow?
     
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    Do you think doing a Sua conversion or modifying hangers would constitute a "mid travel" rear? I would think so but don't know.
     
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    Modifying hangers and doing a 63 swap or a SUA would be considered long travel.

    Mid travel rear would be like using a full leaf pack with an extended rear shock. Thats why mid travel is not a good term. Your just barely better than stock while long travel is way better but way more modification.
     
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