Matt’s Off Road Recovery

i thought they call windsor towing and matt was an employee. im a little confused if he still works with them or spun off to his own company.

kind of like the falling out with casey (idk what happened). casey now has his own channel but was in a bunch of the earlier vids with matt.

 

Matt owns Winder Towing. Matt's Off Road Recovery is the name of his youtube channel. The customers are either calling Winder Towing directly or AAA and getting Winder which then Matt responds.

As far as I know, Casey and Matt had a disagreement and Casey left Winder.

 

Yes as mentioned above he owns Winder towing.

My point was he is running a business while Colorado 4x4 Rescue and Recovery is a group of volunteers doing recoveries for the fun of it so there is alittle more urgency/motivation for Matt to get it done quickly and move onto the next job.

 

Are you saying it's okay to be in a rush (and potentially compromise safety) because it's a job, rather than a hobby? I would think the opposite; that safety could be a secondary consideration if it's just a hobby, vs. a professional that needs to keep up on liability insurance.

Look, most of his videos he does a perfectly fine job and I'm glad he finally got a winch, but I've seen enough sketch in some of his videos (as I mentioned in post #13 of this thread: yanking with chains and those hook things) that I would honestly hesitate to call him if I needed help.

 

I think Casey has always run his own business but Matt used him when he needed help. Like he does with the Fab Rats guy now.

I mean, an ACTUAL tow truck driver explained earlier in the thread why that’s a perfectly safe way to recover these vehicles. You get the concept of a kinetic rope, right? Matt often gets the call when volunteers have tried and failed to help.
@MattiveAmerican

 

Yes, I have no doubts that a tow truck driver would say that. As the saying goes, to a hammer every problem looks like a nail, so a tow truck driver is obviously going to use tools they are familiar with: i.e. chains and hooks. But my point has always been that skill set isn't necessarily the best to transfer over to off road recoveries. Does it work? Obviously it does in most cases because there is a decent amount of overlap. But go ask someone at Warn or some other off-road specialist if using a chain and some hooks is an acceptable dynamic recovery method. As I've said, I'm no expert, but I can venture a guess as to what they'd say. I've seen videos of what happens when using a chain to yank someone out, and it's F-ing gruesome.

And that's not an admonishment of tow truck drivers or Matt, or anyone else. They just don't do dynamic recoveries in an urban setting, why would they?

I look at it like this:
I used to be an outdoor rock climbing guide. And at one point had a guy that had spent all his time in a gym come on a few trips as an assistant guide. Now, you'd think that climbing is climbing and he'd know everything I did because he had been climbing just as long as I had. Ropes, harnesses, carabiners, etc... It's all the same, right? But there are a lot of nuanced differences that this guy simply wasn't aware of (what knots to tie and when, repelling and recovery, or how to build a proper rope anchor) that would have put people in danger had he been in charge. Just like my skill set of setting anchors and cams didn't do any good in a gym setting.

 

Thankfully I've only climbed in a gym a few times in 25 years. The look I get when tying in with a double bowline is priceless. I actually had a little shit that worked at Pacific Edge tell me I couldn't use that knot as it wasn't safe. lol

 

Yeah they have their policies. The figure 8 is an easy knot to tie and to see from a distance if it's tied correctly. That's actually the knot I used all the time. It's just a better knot (IMO) in a guide/paid participant (like a gym) situation, and that's what I was used to.

The guy I referring to was actually "technically" my superior as he just got hired as some trip coordinator or something, I was just a lowly climbing guide. He came on some trips, kinda like how the new CEO walks around to all the offices to see how thing are run. The worst part is this numbskull openly criticized my anchors *in front* of paid participants, not because my anchors were bad, but because he had no clue how they should be set in the first place. These were simple bolted top rope anchors, but because he's only ever seen ropes slung onto giant steel pulleys, he didn't think my webbing anchors were "good enough". smh I about lost it, and ended up leaving the company shortly after that.

 

Anyone else notice that the first recovery mission the Corvair goes on, is to rescue a stuck Taco in a lake bed?

 

That was a nice Taco. It must be someone on here.

 

Oh I hope so!

 

Found myself wondering this as well! Figured chances are pretty good; thing had sliders, Prinsu rack, RTT; the works.

 

this is it? not op of the thread, but looks like the same taco
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...lake-need-a-winch.714332/page-3#post-25415792

 

the truck in his profile pic is a different color.

I started a thread in the 3rd Gen forum
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/ok-fess-up-who-got-featured-in-a-matt’s-video.716807/

 

Not op of that post, but the post I linked is the same truck

 

That's it! Look at 7:26 of the video.

 

Y’all see that recovery they posted today?!

 

Sketchy shit. Good episode

 

I'm just holding my breath on that conga line of vehicles. Given the weight of a dead jeep to haul out of those hills ya that is a challenge.

Rally days we did some pretty sketchy stuff getting dead vehicles home. I remember the Godwin/Sorenson team using an ax to recover their Mazda Rotary Pickup. It rolled but was hanging in a tree eight feet off the ground up in Olympus National Forest.

I shudder to think of the cost of a helicopter extraction.