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Let's talk batteries

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Wixo, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. Feb 20, 2021 at 6:55 AM
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    doublethebass

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    That looks like a fun project. Too bad you lost the bed though.
     
  2. Feb 21, 2021 at 7:16 PM
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    What battery do you guys recommend for a trd OR 4x4 with two package? I dont overland or anything just a pair of ditch lights hooked up only. I know northstar is loved but it's out of my price range.

    I'm still on my stock battery with 40k miles on it but it needs to be replaced soon.

    Thanks
     
  3. Feb 22, 2021 at 10:30 AM
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    It's like playing a game "who is on first?" We have three major battery manufacturers in the USA market. Exide, Interstate, Johnson and Johnson. When you go into sears and buy a "Diehards" is spec'd from on the manufactures. Sears was my go-to (they diluted the diehard brand sticking that label on the battery that had 800 CCA to one with 500CA). Then I went with the Autozone house brand, but Autozone realized people pay for the convenience of a store close to them and jacked prices. Walmart has the best deal on a battery.

    Group 24:
    Walmart $99.00 Two Year free replacement. 600 CCA
    2-year warranty

    Northstar (Oddessy)
    $267 (AGM) Odyssey Battery ODP-AGM24F 725 CCA
    Duralast Platinum AGM Battery 24F-AGM Group Size 24F 710 CCA $199.00

    $169:
    note 3 year warranty
    $149: https://www.autozone.com/batteries-...tery-24f-dl-group-size-24f-650-cca/959528_0_0
    note 2-year warranty.

    If you do a lot of off-roading. AGM battery is good.

    Cold weather? The highest CCA is good.

    In Texas, our heat kills batteries after a few years. The lower starting current means different construction, so that Walmart battery is fine.
     
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  4. Feb 22, 2021 at 10:45 AM
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    I installed a yellow top Optima battery last year in May and the battery died on me last week.. Totally dead. Auto Zone provided me with a replacement yellow top Optima battery, so i am good to go but, will see how this new one performs.
    I do not know what exactly happened to the first yellow top Optima battery, not sure if it was a defective battery from factory or the charging voltage on my truck (17 Off road 4X4) want's enough and killed it??
    The charging voltage on my truck is still the stock, as i do not have OV tune..
     
  5. Feb 22, 2021 at 10:49 AM
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    daveeasa FBC Harness Solutions

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    I'm in your shoes and monitoring, not quite one year so far. I'll let you know if I encounter something similar.
     
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  6. Feb 22, 2021 at 10:52 AM
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    Damn dude thanks for the write up and links
     
  7. Feb 22, 2021 at 11:10 AM
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    Don't forget about East Penn. They manufacture a quality battery built in the USA. Their battery is called Deka. They do manufacture and distribute batteries for other companies.

    https://www.eastpennmanufacturing.com/applications/automotive/

    https://www.eastpennmanufacturing.com/

    http://www.dekacatalog.com/

    http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/batbrand.htm
     
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  8. Feb 22, 2021 at 11:11 AM
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    The Start/Stop does increase the number of battery cycles. I don't like the technology, batteries have a hard enough time with additional cycles.

    I have a TOPDON Battery tester. Microprocessor, load resistor, and a small way of testing and predicting battery life. $50 but worth the peace of mind, and I am always checking other vehicles.

    https://www.amazon.com/TOPDON-BT100-Automotive-Alternator-Motorcycle/dp/B07Z67MMGC

    Modern electronics need good battery voltage, so with a weak battery, you have all sorts of off gremlins. I remember driving a dead battery for months. Park at the top of the hills, push start and get rolling, and pop the clutch!
     
  9. Feb 22, 2021 at 11:17 AM
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    Wait so 27f is for tow package equipped and 24f is for non tow packages?
     
  10. Feb 22, 2021 at 11:22 AM
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    No.....

    Gen 3 Tacoma is a 24F. It doesn't matter if you have the tow package or not.
     
  11. Feb 22, 2021 at 11:28 AM
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    That was for 2nd Gen
     
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  12. Feb 22, 2021 at 11:30 AM
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    27F are larger, heavier weight, higher capacity, physically larger.


    https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/r/advice/car-maintenance/car-battery-size-chart

    The "F" means Ford Spec (battery just a little larger, PLUS and MINUS terminals are flipped around. My worst fubar was thinking "cables are long enough I'll flip around a non "F" battery and bolt it in. Hood support didn't clear and shorted out.

    If I was using a winch and had the room under the hood I'd go with a 27F.

    7 Pin towing, you have electric brakes back there, but don't worry about the battery size for towing.
     
  13. Feb 22, 2021 at 11:30 AM
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    Thank goodness our trucks don't have that Start/Stop shit, that would drive me nuts having the 3ngine shut off every time you stopped.
     
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  14. Feb 22, 2021 at 11:32 AM
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    I thought the F in this case just means is for Reverse Terminals.
     
  15. Feb 22, 2021 at 11:40 AM
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    This was my solution on my 2019 Highlander: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Disable-To...y-Highlander-Hilux-Idle-Stop-HL3/122906497591 Made by a fellow EE, simple little Atmel processor that takes care of it for you.

    Oh, those batteries are the custom Yusua $450 solution! Ouch! It drove me crazy, as I would wait for a gap in traffic then go to pull out punch it. The engine would stop, restart, and take a second pulling out. Grrrrrr.

    Same V6 in the Highlander and Tacoma. Highlander eight-speed helped with spacing, nicely matched with engine. Tacoma not as smooth, but the automatic six-speed is pretty robust.
     
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  16. Feb 22, 2021 at 11:44 AM
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    Almost, just a hair difference in size. If cables were long enough, you would drop the 24 in place but watch where the hood hits!

    Length, width, height Inches & MM

    upload_2021-2-22_13-42-35.jpg
     
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  17. Feb 22, 2021 at 12:29 PM
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    I just went to costco and got a replacement Interstate battery for like $80. It's fine, my truck can charge it.
     
  18. Feb 22, 2021 at 1:30 PM
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    10.4 thank you sir
     
  19. Feb 22, 2021 at 1:32 PM
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    Thanks that makes things a lot easier.
     
  20. Feb 22, 2021 at 1:35 PM
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    I just swapped mine out at the same mileage last week and put this in:
    https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/NAA8424FAAA?impressionRank=1&keywordInput=LegendBatteryAAA
    and there is a rebate for that battery too:
    "Offer #: NP2254
    LEGEND PREMIUM BATTERY ONLY - NP2254: Purchase a NAPA Legend Premium Battery (#84…, 98...) or AAA Premium Battery (#AAA…) between 01/01/21 - 02/28/21 and claim a $20 Prepaid Visa Card Rebate. Limit Two (2) Battery Rebates per customer/household.
    Start Date: 1/1/2021 End Date: 2/28/2021 Submission Deadline: 3/15/2021 Rebate Amount: $20 Prepaid Visa Card"
     
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