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Is pennzoil sychromesh ok for our manual transmission

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by rll131, Jun 4, 2016.

  1. Jun 4, 2016 at 7:34 AM
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    rll131

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    I went to every store around no one had redline. So I put 75w90 valvoline in the rear dif and pennzoil synchromesh in the transmission is this ok or no. I have a 2000 2.4 rwd manual taco with 110k
     
  2. Jun 4, 2016 at 10:08 AM
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    Anyone have experience with the stuff I don't want to drive the truck and break something
     
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    I would think the "syncromesh" oil would be fine. I use Valvoline "just because..."

    The Toyota spec for manual transmission oil is GL4 or GL5, SAE 75/90. I haven't seen GL3 oil for 25 years.
     
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    Yea the guy at Autozone said to use it instead of valvoline 75w90 that I bought for the differential. Just don't want to fuck the truck up by putting the wrong fluid in.
     
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    you are fine. hell, i think in my last truck i just ran 90w for over 100k with no issues lol
     
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    Amazon sells redline, FYI for next time.
     
  7. Jun 4, 2016 at 6:12 PM
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    What is the viscosity of the synchromesh? GM and Honda synchromesh fluid is 5w30. Toyota uses 75w90.
     
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    OME and worth every penny.
    NO!!!!!!!!! Ironically....Synchromesh will eat your synchros. Even the 2wd trans. It's for trans that use a light gear oil.

    I made the same mistake.:)
     
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    I appreciate your comment...:)

    At first I thought you were full of BS, so I googled the stuff. According to what I read, there may be a problem with the synchromesh oil from Pennzoil when used under certain conditions. The Pennzoil internet entry for synchromesh says: http://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/produ...ls/synchromesh-manual-transmission-fluid.html

    Because I roam around the hot hot Nevada and Utah deserts in the summer, I'll stick to what I've been running for the last 25 years (and it ain't synchromesh).
     
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    OME and worth every penny.
    OP says it rated GL3
    In my old 2wd I noticed the shifting to deteriorate within a couple of weeks after the change.
    Google people who HAVE used it and rec'd it.....it's really better as a replacement for boxes like old t-5's......I think?
    They used ATF from factory but that turned out to not be a great gear oil.
     
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    It should be fine but if you want peace of mind you might just have to swap it for Redline.



    I just changed my fluid to Redline MT-90 and the truck shifts better than ever at 209,xxx miles
     
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    X3 on redline mt90. Best fluid for these trucks.
     
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    I wouldn't put that crap in my transmission. but then again, I don't like penzoil :D. So long as the synchromesh is GL5 rated, it will be fine regardless of what else it says.
     
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    I've never seen a synchromesh that is 75w90, but maybe it does exist.:notsure:
     
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    Yeah, I never take fluid recommendations from an auto parts store employee. They think they know what they are talking about, but most do not.

    Straight from the owners manual:

    "Oil type:

    Gear Oil API GL-4 or GL-5

    Recommended oil viscosity:

    SAE 75W- 90"

    I would dump the transmission and put a good GL-4 gear oil in it. MT90 is the best. The rumor going around is our transmission don't like the GL-5 as much as the GL-4.
     
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    so if i told you to put gl5 rated oil that wasy 75-90, youd ignore what both me and the manual said? :D
     
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    Not sure what you are getting at..... MT90 is 75w-90 GL-4. It fits exactly what the owner's manual calls for and it has a lot of positive press in the Toyota communities.
     
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    That's odd, ATF is used in a lot of manual trannys. I've never had an issue with it in the 5 speed of my '97 Ford Powerstroke pushing 200k. The synchros are starting to go, but that's normal with that kinda mileage in the ZF5's.
     
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    :boink: im "an auto parts store employee". i was trying to be a smart ass :anonymous:


    too smart?
     

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