Inside Frame Rust Proofing????

My 2013 Taco is rusting from the inside out. Any suggestion(s) for me to fix it?

 

I used Eastwood's Internal Frame Coating on my 30 year old camper frame. I had some rust on the inside frame tube. Reportedly, this stuff will convert, encapsulate and seals rust on internal frame surfaces. The stuff is phenolic resin with a zinc additive.

I actually purchased a few extra cans (directly from Eastwood) to treat the frame on my new 2015 Tacoma.

This was the best product I found, there may be others.

 

What is coated on the outside of your frame?

 

Spent about $300+ on these and my fear is that these craps may do more damages than leaving bare metal exposed to the elements. The issue with these is that they cracked as they get older. Too late to use fluid films anyone? I plan to keep my truck for as long as it runs so old like to slow down the rust issue.

 

I did my research because my truck came from the northeast. Rubberized coatings are no good because if/when they crack they'll allow moisture in, trapping it between the coating and the metal. Fluid film and other treatments like it are good because it'll keep the moisture away, but require repeated application. I used Eastwood's internal frame coating on mine for safe measure. My truck came from NJ to CO with less rust than most people here have. I wire wheeled whatever I could find, used Eastwood rust encapsulator, then extreme chassis black. I also hit the frame with internal frame coating where I couldn't wire wheel. Looks the same now as it did when I applied it. I'll fluid film it soon as winter approaches. Fluid film can be applied pretty much anywhere and will keep the moisture out.

 

IMO. That rubber crap is doing or causing a lot more damage. Mine is a 2012 and I have no rust on it at all. Of course I also do not live in a frozen wasteland... peel that crap off and get some fluid film.

 

I hope you show that to the dealer for possible frame replacement in the future.

 

used fluid film with the hose extension they sell for spray cans. you can get the hose in any tight spot. did inside tail gate, doors, and inside all body parts. little caution you can go through a can fast with the hose attachment. it has alot of pressure, enough to shoot from one end of frame to the other. it coats everything iside the frame nicely.

 

I think fluid film is a waste, but that's only because the sample can they gave me only lasted a month on my 18 yo Ford Explorers frame before completely disappearing.

What I did (yet to see how long it lasts, but it will surely last longer than paraffin wax)

Step 1: Clean and flush the boxed section of frame

Step 2: make sure it's 100% dry

Step 3: pour some Rustoleum Rust Reformer into a spray bottle


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Step 4: Spray the frame

Step 5: repeat step 4 after 2-3 days


and that's it. you can top coat it after 3-4 days if you feel it's necessary, but I did not.

I'm currently testing it on my truck and some very old iron that has been flaking and rusting away for a few decades. Upon first coat it stopped the iron from rusting immediately. 2 days later I noticed some discoloration on raised sections of the flaked portions where rust had begun. I assume it's because I did not cover this portion well enough. I decided to apply another coat. Now it's almost 2 months later and zero rust has formed on the iron. I have it sitting outside in the weather to see what it does long term.

 

I scrubbed my frame down with a brush and soap then fluid filmed the whole frame with the aerosol cans. Only took two cans. Came out great, we'll see how it holds up over the winter.

 

You think Fluid Film is a waste? I've been spraying 2 - 3 cans of Fluid Film on my 13' in the early spring and late fall (about 5 - 6 cans a year). It's been through two harsh winters and two very wet springs now in PA, and the frame looks almost brand new.

 

No air compressor here, but I'll definitely look into that when I eventually get one. For now I'm just buying it by the case on Amazon. Saves a little money that way too.

One of my best friends and his dad both work for the local borough in the town where I grew up. They said they spray Fluid Film on all their heavy equipment and snow plows regularly and swear by it too! I think they buy it in bulk and it comes in a huge metal drum.

 

at the end of the day, it really comes down to a few factors to which product you need to use and how well it protects overtime...as long as you stop the anode/cathode process you will minimize corrosion no matter what product you use...you wont stop it but you sure as hell can prevent it.

severity of corrosion
geographical region
how well you prepared the surface....never understood why some people see corrosion then just put on an inhibitor without some mechanical means of removing the corrosion first.
and most important..actually following the directions of the product

I just recently did both my wife's jeep and my truck last week with fluid film using the same process as door ding recommended (compressor and gun)......spent more time on removing the surface corrosion then actual spraying.

and what ever you do never apply a coating that will hide the base material, you need to see if any corrosion starts and not wait till its too late due to that it was hidden under some covering

 

I sprayed the entire sample can on the frame in the rear wheel well of my Exploder a few winters ago. Within a month there was zero evidence of it being there thus it could no longer protect anything. Frame is fully rusted with no paint left. Granted the wheel well is a harsh environment, but I see no point to oil or wax when for less money you can use something permanent.

I do think it will slow down corrosion, but IMO is a waste when other products cost less, require much less labor, and look much better.

To each their own...as far as I know all the stuff I did could flake off next month and I will change my opinion completely.

 

I like brushing on used motor oil and tranny fluid. Works great.

 

I'll stick with what is proven. If Fluid Film is good enough for the borough equipment where my buddy works, the Coast Guard, Navy, Army, Marines, Air Force, Boeing, and Delta then it's good enough for me.


This was taken off of Fluid Film's site:

FLUID FILM has faced intense scrutiny by government research laboratories as advanced as Boeing's Space Systems Division for use on the Space Shuttle and Boeing's Engineering Materials and Process Laboratory for use on aluminum alloys, exceeding process requirements and expectations, ultimately resulting in reduced maintenance costs.

FLUID FILM has proven so effective in these industries that specifications were written by the U.S. Navy/Army/Marine Corps, Sundstrand Aerospace, Boeing North America, U.S. Coast Guard, U.S. National Guard, Sikorsky Helicopter and Delta airlines for the use of FLUID FILM in a variety of applications.

The U.S. Air Force, in accordance with Mil-C-16173-E Grade 2, conducted testing on FLUID FILM. FLUID FILM exceeded all performance requirements.

http://www.fluid-film.com/applications/aviation/

 

Rust Cure Formula 3000 is what the Canadian Military uses on their vehicles , it can be purchased in a spray can here at least , not sure if it's available in the US

http://www.corrosionfree.com/product.php?p=16

 

Eastwood Interanl Frame Coating ordered. Not sure how this thing is going to work out. What's your experiences with this stuffs, guys?

 

He didn't say that I doesn't work, he said the labor wasn't worth it to him because it doesn't last.

That shit is constantly reapplied as routine maintenance in the fields you listed.