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Hub Centric Rings

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Dan2731, May 5, 2023.

  1. May 5, 2023 at 3:27 PM
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    Dan2731

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    Anyone have any experience with a good set of hub centric rings? Been having vibration issues with my method 305s and might need a set. Thanks!
     
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    What's center bore of the Methods? I tried some paper thin ones for 108mm center bore on Toyota axle. Not overly effective.

    The better option seemed to be a small wheel spacer to adapt the 106mm to 108mm.
     
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    Hub centric rings arent usually a huge cure, especially if there's care when the wheels are installed. The lugs ultimately center the rim.

    Any plastic set from Amazon will work.

    Personally I don't even use them on my own cars even when are free with the rims.

    I imagine you're chasing a difficult shake that is caused by giant tires and a lifted truck.
     
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    Yeah they are 108s. That’s what i’ve heard about them not being very good. I’ve never seen this and didn’t know before I ordered these wheels. With Method being a pretty popular wheel i’m surprised i never heard anything.
     
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    My truck is neither lifted or has huge tires. Running a 265/75/16 and get a pretty good vibration anything over 60. Never heard of these rings before having difficulty with this vibration.
     
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    Absolutely true for conical style lug nuts. With mag style you gotta be more careful. I run all conical so the ring is just too help with getting the lugs pulling the wheel centered since it is a 40.
     
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    I’ve never looked into this so i’m pretty green. According to a lot of people on here it seemed like they used the method extended thread lugs that they suggest so I ended up going with them. Guess i’ll have to dig deeper

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    Those are expensive wheels, are you sure you’re not chasing a tire issue? What’s the brand of tire you’re running?
     
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    I agree, Discount tire (don’t know how much you can trust but they seem cool enough) seem to think it’s because i need these rings. I’m running Mickey Thompson ATs in an SL
     
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    What offset? Large offsets need dynamic balancing.

    Lug centric wheels need to be mounted carefully on the balancer to mimic how they are mounted on the vehicle; collet and flange plate that centers it using the lugs. Trying to make them half hubcentric and half lugcentric is the wrong call...wheels are either 100% lugcentric or 100% hubcentric.

    Lugcentric needs great care when tightened and torqued on the vehicle.

    I'm running your exact tire and bought them at Discount Tire as well; although I'm on OEM wheels . Stories like yours, is why I elected to have them mounted at my dealer.
     
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    That’s too funny, i was about to quote you on the mickey thompson thread and ask your what you thought of your tires. They have a 0 Offset. Do you think I’d have better luck at the dealer?
     
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    I have some cheap motometal 970’s for winter, zero offset 16’ and they’re smooth as glass.
    Splitbolt has a good point on the mounting of the wheel to the balancer. I have a brand new Snap On balancer and it has an adapter to mount the wheels through the lugs instead of the center bore. That’s exactly how I balanced mine.
    Like I said those are not cheap wheels. Balanced thru the center bore shouldn’t be a problem. I’ve only had a problem with that on steel wheels where the bore is stamped.
    You really need to find someone with a GSP 9700 road force balancer to diagnose if it’s a wheel or tire issue.
     
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    Not necessarily... They're used to balancing Toyota OEMs. Since I'm on OEM wheels I feel more comfortable with them.
    A knowledgeable tech and the proper equipment in good shape, matter most IMO.
     
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    Yeah they had some type of road force balancer i saw the hood that comes down and everything. I reached out to method to see what they think. Like i said this is all new to me i’m 19 bought this truck last year and have just started adding stuff. Seems to be my luck to have all the issues haha. Guess i’ll have to shop around
     
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    There's your problem. Why that brand?
     
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    why do you say that
     
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    Trust me, most of us on here had issues at one time or another so don't get discouraged. If you're using the proper lug nuts (torqued in sequence) you have a tire issue. They need a road force measurement.
    Only one company manufactures the road force balancer and it's Hunter engineering. The GSP9700 a 15 thousand dollar machine so not many shops have it. Just because the balancing equipment has a hood doesn't mean it's a road force measurement unit so ask. The other factor is the technician using the machine needs to be familiar with it. Good luck, it will be worth the hassle when it's said and done.
     
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    Yeah i’ve talked to them on the phone and they say they are doing road force balances. They claim that i’m having these issues because the wheels aren’t completely centered because of the 2mm gap. According to them i need to order those hub centric rings and it will fix my issue. Hopefully i can get it figured out. Very frustrating driving this shake mobile.
     
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    Did they tell you how many pounds of force each tire had? Ask because if they're upwards of 30+ pounds they will never balance, even on the 9700.
     
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    They told me today that all the wheels are balanced and the only reason i’m having an issue is because the wheel is not completely centered and i need these rings to have them completely centered and then i will not have any issues
     

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