1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Help: How to disconnect trailer wiring harness

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by zcweisman, Sep 14, 2022.

  1. Sep 14, 2022 at 2:47 PM
    #1
    zcweisman

    zcweisman [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Member:
    #193999
    Messages:
    654
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zach
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Off-Road 4x4 MGM, 1993 FZJ80 Land Cruiser
    TRD CAI Magnaflow Catback Exhaust - Chopped OVTune 2.0 Beta 25600 91 Nitro 5.29 Gears TRD Pro Grill Raptor Lights Mod Hondo Vent Mount Hondo Radio Knobs Cobra 75 CB Radio Firestik 3' Antenna Gobi Ranger Rack Leitner Designs ACS Classic SwitchPro 9100 Baja Designs S8 30" Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Driving/Combo x2 Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Wide Cornering x2 (fogs) Baja Designs Squadron Sport Spot Ditch Lights x2 Baja Designs S2 in backup light positions (scene) x2 Baja Designs S1 (scene) x2 KC Hilites Chase Bar SCS F5 Matte Bronze 17x8.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70r17 LR E Tepui Autana 3 FOX 2.5 RR Front and Rear 700lb, 14" Eibach Springs Dakar leaf springs + 2 AAL C4 Hybrid Bumper C4 Sliders C4 HC Rear Bumper w/Swingout RCI Full Steel Skid Plates Recovery: VIAIR 400P Compressor Smittybilt 9K Gen3 Winch Maxtrax 48" Hilift Shovel Assorted straps
    I'm trying to isolate a potential short in my wiring job I did into the trailer wiring harness.

    To sanity check myself I'd like to disconnect the trailer wiring harness from wherever it inputs to the front of the truck so I know that it is in fact an issue in the back.

    Anyone know how to completely disconnect the trailer wiring harness?
     
  2. Sep 14, 2022 at 2:53 PM
    #2
    rnish

    rnish Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2014
    Member:
    #129450
    Messages:
    8,548
    Gender:
    Male
    Peoples Republic of Maryland (USA)
    Vehicle:
    Tacoma 2nd gen
    King's, Camburg UCA, Dirt King LCA, armor
    Under the bed there is a connector. Trace the trailer wire. Look around the spare tire.
     
    wilcam47 likes this.
  3. Sep 14, 2022 at 2:55 PM
    #3
    zcweisman

    zcweisman [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Member:
    #193999
    Messages:
    654
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zach
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Off-Road 4x4 MGM, 1993 FZJ80 Land Cruiser
    TRD CAI Magnaflow Catback Exhaust - Chopped OVTune 2.0 Beta 25600 91 Nitro 5.29 Gears TRD Pro Grill Raptor Lights Mod Hondo Vent Mount Hondo Radio Knobs Cobra 75 CB Radio Firestik 3' Antenna Gobi Ranger Rack Leitner Designs ACS Classic SwitchPro 9100 Baja Designs S8 30" Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Driving/Combo x2 Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Wide Cornering x2 (fogs) Baja Designs Squadron Sport Spot Ditch Lights x2 Baja Designs S2 in backup light positions (scene) x2 Baja Designs S1 (scene) x2 KC Hilites Chase Bar SCS F5 Matte Bronze 17x8.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70r17 LR E Tepui Autana 3 FOX 2.5 RR Front and Rear 700lb, 14" Eibach Springs Dakar leaf springs + 2 AAL C4 Hybrid Bumper C4 Sliders C4 HC Rear Bumper w/Swingout RCI Full Steel Skid Plates Recovery: VIAIR 400P Compressor Smittybilt 9K Gen3 Winch Maxtrax 48" Hilift Shovel Assorted straps
    Much appreciated
     
  4. Sep 14, 2022 at 5:01 PM
    #4
    caribe makaira

    caribe makaira Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Member:
    #51121
    Messages:
    11,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Caribbean, Puerto Rico
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner TRD Offroad AutoTrans
    Hood Struts, My version Fogs always ON, Map & Overhead Light Mod,
    U r S.O.L.
    3rd Gen has no splices/connectors from bumper to engine bay. 2nd Gen does.
     
    GrizzledBastard and hiPSI like this.
  5. Sep 14, 2022 at 5:05 PM
    #5
    zcweisman

    zcweisman [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Member:
    #193999
    Messages:
    654
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zach
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Off-Road 4x4 MGM, 1993 FZJ80 Land Cruiser
    TRD CAI Magnaflow Catback Exhaust - Chopped OVTune 2.0 Beta 25600 91 Nitro 5.29 Gears TRD Pro Grill Raptor Lights Mod Hondo Vent Mount Hondo Radio Knobs Cobra 75 CB Radio Firestik 3' Antenna Gobi Ranger Rack Leitner Designs ACS Classic SwitchPro 9100 Baja Designs S8 30" Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Driving/Combo x2 Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Wide Cornering x2 (fogs) Baja Designs Squadron Sport Spot Ditch Lights x2 Baja Designs S2 in backup light positions (scene) x2 Baja Designs S1 (scene) x2 KC Hilites Chase Bar SCS F5 Matte Bronze 17x8.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70r17 LR E Tepui Autana 3 FOX 2.5 RR Front and Rear 700lb, 14" Eibach Springs Dakar leaf springs + 2 AAL C4 Hybrid Bumper C4 Sliders C4 HC Rear Bumper w/Swingout RCI Full Steel Skid Plates Recovery: VIAIR 400P Compressor Smittybilt 9K Gen3 Winch Maxtrax 48" Hilift Shovel Assorted straps
    Doesn't mean I can't fix it ;)
     
  6. Sep 14, 2022 at 5:07 PM
    #6
    caribe makaira

    caribe makaira Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Member:
    #51121
    Messages:
    11,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Caribbean, Puerto Rico
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner TRD Offroad AutoTrans
    Hood Struts, My version Fogs always ON, Map & Overhead Light Mod,
    Of course not...
     
    Tacospike and Skydvrr like this.
  7. Sep 14, 2022 at 5:10 PM
    #7
    caribe makaira

    caribe makaira Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Member:
    #51121
    Messages:
    11,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Caribbean, Puerto Rico
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner TRD Offroad AutoTrans
    Hood Struts, My version Fogs always ON, Map & Overhead Light Mod,
    What are the signs of your potential short?
     
  8. Sep 14, 2022 at 5:43 PM
    #8
    hiPSI

    hiPSI Laminar Flow

    Joined:
    May 21, 2017
    Member:
    #219544
    Messages:
    12,127
    Gender:
    Male
    South Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2024 Long Tundra
    OP, listen to this guy as he knows what he speaks.
     
  9. Sep 14, 2022 at 7:12 PM
    #9
    zcweisman

    zcweisman [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Member:
    #193999
    Messages:
    654
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zach
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Off-Road 4x4 MGM, 1993 FZJ80 Land Cruiser
    TRD CAI Magnaflow Catback Exhaust - Chopped OVTune 2.0 Beta 25600 91 Nitro 5.29 Gears TRD Pro Grill Raptor Lights Mod Hondo Vent Mount Hondo Radio Knobs Cobra 75 CB Radio Firestik 3' Antenna Gobi Ranger Rack Leitner Designs ACS Classic SwitchPro 9100 Baja Designs S8 30" Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Driving/Combo x2 Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Wide Cornering x2 (fogs) Baja Designs Squadron Sport Spot Ditch Lights x2 Baja Designs S2 in backup light positions (scene) x2 Baja Designs S1 (scene) x2 KC Hilites Chase Bar SCS F5 Matte Bronze 17x8.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70r17 LR E Tepui Autana 3 FOX 2.5 RR Front and Rear 700lb, 14" Eibach Springs Dakar leaf springs + 2 AAL C4 Hybrid Bumper C4 Sliders C4 HC Rear Bumper w/Swingout RCI Full Steel Skid Plates Recovery: VIAIR 400P Compressor Smittybilt 9K Gen3 Winch Maxtrax 48" Hilift Shovel Assorted straps
    The 10A fuse to my STOP circuit keeps blowing, preventing me from either A.) Starting my truck, or B.) getting out of Park once it's started.

    I've got a KC rear tail light bar and a BD RTL-M spliced into my trailer harness, which seems like the best place to start looking. If I can disconnect the trailer harness then I have a good reason to go and inspect the splice-job for problems.
     
  10. Sep 14, 2022 at 7:39 PM
    #10
    caribe makaira

    caribe makaira Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Member:
    #51121
    Messages:
    11,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Caribbean, Puerto Rico
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner TRD Offroad AutoTrans
    Hood Struts, My version Fogs always ON, Map & Overhead Light Mod,
    What's the amps required for the KC bar?
     
  11. Sep 14, 2022 at 8:26 PM
    #11
    zcweisman

    zcweisman [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Member:
    #193999
    Messages:
    654
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zach
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Off-Road 4x4 MGM, 1993 FZJ80 Land Cruiser
    TRD CAI Magnaflow Catback Exhaust - Chopped OVTune 2.0 Beta 25600 91 Nitro 5.29 Gears TRD Pro Grill Raptor Lights Mod Hondo Vent Mount Hondo Radio Knobs Cobra 75 CB Radio Firestik 3' Antenna Gobi Ranger Rack Leitner Designs ACS Classic SwitchPro 9100 Baja Designs S8 30" Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Driving/Combo x2 Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Wide Cornering x2 (fogs) Baja Designs Squadron Sport Spot Ditch Lights x2 Baja Designs S2 in backup light positions (scene) x2 Baja Designs S1 (scene) x2 KC Hilites Chase Bar SCS F5 Matte Bronze 17x8.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70r17 LR E Tepui Autana 3 FOX 2.5 RR Front and Rear 700lb, 14" Eibach Springs Dakar leaf springs + 2 AAL C4 Hybrid Bumper C4 Sliders C4 HC Rear Bumper w/Swingout RCI Full Steel Skid Plates Recovery: VIAIR 400P Compressor Smittybilt 9K Gen3 Winch Maxtrax 48" Hilift Shovel Assorted straps
    1.) I've had it working fine for a couple of years now, so whatever the amperage requirements are of it shouldn't be an issue. Docs say 5A max though
    2.) I have the power connections for both bars hooked up to the 12v line (non-signal). This is where I'm not sure about the design. I wouldn't imagine the 12v power line for the trailer harness would be an issue because that's the same power line that would provide any sort of accessory power to the trailer.

    I imagine there's probably a short from the 12v power line to one of the signal lines.
     
  12. Sep 14, 2022 at 8:37 PM
    #12
    caribe makaira

    caribe makaira Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Member:
    #51121
    Messages:
    11,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Caribbean, Puerto Rico
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner TRD Offroad AutoTrans
    Hood Struts, My version Fogs always ON, Map & Overhead Light Mod,
    So these added light bars require separate power and signal inputs, correct?
     
  13. Sep 14, 2022 at 8:40 PM
    #13
    zcweisman

    zcweisman [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Member:
    #193999
    Messages:
    654
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zach
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Off-Road 4x4 MGM, 1993 FZJ80 Land Cruiser
    TRD CAI Magnaflow Catback Exhaust - Chopped OVTune 2.0 Beta 25600 91 Nitro 5.29 Gears TRD Pro Grill Raptor Lights Mod Hondo Vent Mount Hondo Radio Knobs Cobra 75 CB Radio Firestik 3' Antenna Gobi Ranger Rack Leitner Designs ACS Classic SwitchPro 9100 Baja Designs S8 30" Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Driving/Combo x2 Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Wide Cornering x2 (fogs) Baja Designs Squadron Sport Spot Ditch Lights x2 Baja Designs S2 in backup light positions (scene) x2 Baja Designs S1 (scene) x2 KC Hilites Chase Bar SCS F5 Matte Bronze 17x8.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70r17 LR E Tepui Autana 3 FOX 2.5 RR Front and Rear 700lb, 14" Eibach Springs Dakar leaf springs + 2 AAL C4 Hybrid Bumper C4 Sliders C4 HC Rear Bumper w/Swingout RCI Full Steel Skid Plates Recovery: VIAIR 400P Compressor Smittybilt 9K Gen3 Winch Maxtrax 48" Hilift Shovel Assorted straps
    Correct, they get power, and then the signal lines just open the gates for voltage to be applied to the appropriate light.
     
  14. Sep 14, 2022 at 8:42 PM
    #14
    caribe makaira

    caribe makaira Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Member:
    #51121
    Messages:
    11,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Caribbean, Puerto Rico
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner TRD Offroad AutoTrans
    Hood Struts, My version Fogs always ON, Map & Overhead Light Mod,
    The issue I see, maybe it took time to manifest, is that the towing STOP is tied to TURN. So maybe the added light(s) controller(s) has failed.
     
  15. Sep 14, 2022 at 8:47 PM
    #15
    zcweisman

    zcweisman [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Member:
    #193999
    Messages:
    654
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zach
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Off-Road 4x4 MGM, 1993 FZJ80 Land Cruiser
    TRD CAI Magnaflow Catback Exhaust - Chopped OVTune 2.0 Beta 25600 91 Nitro 5.29 Gears TRD Pro Grill Raptor Lights Mod Hondo Vent Mount Hondo Radio Knobs Cobra 75 CB Radio Firestik 3' Antenna Gobi Ranger Rack Leitner Designs ACS Classic SwitchPro 9100 Baja Designs S8 30" Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Driving/Combo x2 Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Wide Cornering x2 (fogs) Baja Designs Squadron Sport Spot Ditch Lights x2 Baja Designs S2 in backup light positions (scene) x2 Baja Designs S1 (scene) x2 KC Hilites Chase Bar SCS F5 Matte Bronze 17x8.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70r17 LR E Tepui Autana 3 FOX 2.5 RR Front and Rear 700lb, 14" Eibach Springs Dakar leaf springs + 2 AAL C4 Hybrid Bumper C4 Sliders C4 HC Rear Bumper w/Swingout RCI Full Steel Skid Plates Recovery: VIAIR 400P Compressor Smittybilt 9K Gen3 Winch Maxtrax 48" Hilift Shovel Assorted straps
    My T-tap splices are pretty shit, and the whole bundle of wires is a super exposed rats-nest, on top of that I live in an area with super salty ocean air. There's like 30 possible modes of failure here.

    If I can remove the entire wiring bundle I'll just rebuild it with sturdier connections. I would have done that originally if I took the time to just trace the harness up to a connection point LOL.
     
  16. Sep 14, 2022 at 8:50 PM
    #16
    caribe makaira

    caribe makaira Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Member:
    #51121
    Messages:
    11,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Caribbean, Puerto Rico
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner TRD Offroad AutoTrans
    Hood Struts, My version Fogs always ON, Map & Overhead Light Mod,
    Why not remove the added lights and verify the spliced area for failure/rust, etc?
     
  17. Sep 14, 2022 at 9:00 PM
    #17
    zcweisman

    zcweisman [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Member:
    #193999
    Messages:
    654
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zach
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Off-Road 4x4 MGM, 1993 FZJ80 Land Cruiser
    TRD CAI Magnaflow Catback Exhaust - Chopped OVTune 2.0 Beta 25600 91 Nitro 5.29 Gears TRD Pro Grill Raptor Lights Mod Hondo Vent Mount Hondo Radio Knobs Cobra 75 CB Radio Firestik 3' Antenna Gobi Ranger Rack Leitner Designs ACS Classic SwitchPro 9100 Baja Designs S8 30" Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Driving/Combo x2 Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Wide Cornering x2 (fogs) Baja Designs Squadron Sport Spot Ditch Lights x2 Baja Designs S2 in backup light positions (scene) x2 Baja Designs S1 (scene) x2 KC Hilites Chase Bar SCS F5 Matte Bronze 17x8.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70r17 LR E Tepui Autana 3 FOX 2.5 RR Front and Rear 700lb, 14" Eibach Springs Dakar leaf springs + 2 AAL C4 Hybrid Bumper C4 Sliders C4 HC Rear Bumper w/Swingout RCI Full Steel Skid Plates Recovery: VIAIR 400P Compressor Smittybilt 9K Gen3 Winch Maxtrax 48" Hilift Shovel Assorted straps
    Well, if unplugging the trailer harness ends up being brain-dead easy, then I'll do that first to verify that the issue is with the harness.

    If that alleviates the symptom then I'll dive deeper. Probably end up overhauling it anyways, but I'd rather do the thing that requires the least effort first.

    I'll take a pic of my rear end situation tomorrow so you have an idea of what I'm working with. I guarantee you haven't seen anything like this before.
     
  18. Sep 14, 2022 at 9:01 PM
    #18
    caribe makaira

    caribe makaira Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Member:
    #51121
    Messages:
    11,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Caribbean, Puerto Rico
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner TRD Offroad AutoTrans
    Hood Struts, My version Fogs always ON, Map & Overhead Light Mod,
  19. Sep 16, 2022 at 9:14 AM
    #19
    caribe makaira

    caribe makaira Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2011
    Member:
    #51121
    Messages:
    11,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Caribbean, Puerto Rico
    Vehicle:
    05 PreRunner TRD Offroad AutoTrans
    Hood Struts, My version Fogs always ON, Map & Overhead Light Mod,
    Any progress?:popcorn:
     
  20. Sep 16, 2022 at 1:07 PM
    #20
    zcweisman

    zcweisman [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Member:
    #193999
    Messages:
    654
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zach
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2016 TRD Off-Road 4x4 MGM, 1993 FZJ80 Land Cruiser
    TRD CAI Magnaflow Catback Exhaust - Chopped OVTune 2.0 Beta 25600 91 Nitro 5.29 Gears TRD Pro Grill Raptor Lights Mod Hondo Vent Mount Hondo Radio Knobs Cobra 75 CB Radio Firestik 3' Antenna Gobi Ranger Rack Leitner Designs ACS Classic SwitchPro 9100 Baja Designs S8 30" Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Driving/Combo x2 Baja Designs Squadron Sport Amber Wide Cornering x2 (fogs) Baja Designs Squadron Sport Spot Ditch Lights x2 Baja Designs S2 in backup light positions (scene) x2 Baja Designs S1 (scene) x2 KC Hilites Chase Bar SCS F5 Matte Bronze 17x8.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70r17 LR E Tepui Autana 3 FOX 2.5 RR Front and Rear 700lb, 14" Eibach Springs Dakar leaf springs + 2 AAL C4 Hybrid Bumper C4 Sliders C4 HC Rear Bumper w/Swingout RCI Full Steel Skid Plates Recovery: VIAIR 400P Compressor Smittybilt 9K Gen3 Winch Maxtrax 48" Hilift Shovel Assorted straps
    @caribe makaira

    You were correct - no trailer harness disconnect. I unplugged the 30A trailer power fuse and it started up and I could drive it around but the STOP fuse ended up blowing again. Gonna try pulling the 7.5A fuse for the trailer brake wiring that's in the cab and see if that resolves it.

    If not then I'll just unplug all my rear lighting and see if that fixes it.

    I also noticed that when I engage my left blinker, it flashes once and then shuts off......I'm thinking this could be a clue....
     

Products Discussed in

To Top