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HELP: Can't remove power steering pump

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by bevo2000, Dec 24, 2023.

  1. Dec 24, 2023 at 2:24 PM
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    bevo2000

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    Hi guys,

    I need your help again!

    I am trying to unbolt and move the power steering pump out of the way so I can see the oil leak behind it. I watched the video below many times and it looks so easy, but the pump wouldn't move at all after removing the two 14mm bolts. I am not replacing the pump so I didn't remove the two hoses. What am I missing?

    https://youtu.be/7GO3os1NQTc?si=a4IxHPYSqjrqPcrD

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  2. Dec 24, 2023 at 2:58 PM
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    This is a picture taken from the bottom looking up before I removed anything.

    IMG_3272.jpg

    The service manual also lists all the steps to remove the pump, but I don't want to disconnect the hoses if I don't have to.

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  3. Dec 24, 2023 at 3:15 PM
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    Thanks for checking, but those two bolts are part of the pump itself and the aren't bolted onto any brackets on the frame.
     
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  4. Dec 24, 2023 at 3:19 PM
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    It's a pressure fit, there's a sleeve that presses onto it when the large bolt is installed.

    I strongly recommend just leaving it and planning on a timing cover reseal. The sleeve is a pain to get the pump back in unless you have experience with them.

    Ideally you remove the pump with a prybar, then tap the sleeve back so its easier to reinstall.

    99.999% of leaks behind the ps pump is a timing cover.
     
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  5. Dec 24, 2023 at 3:25 PM
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    Thank you for the help. Is the sleeve applicable to only the 2005 model? This must be the case because all the videos I have seen on YouTube did not mention anything about a sleeve and the removal and re-installation were so easy. By the way, I was trying to move the power steering pump so I can apply the Permatex "Right Stuff" to see if it will help with the leak because a lot of folks here have reported good results.
     
  6. Dec 24, 2023 at 3:29 PM
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    Gotcha.

    All GR engines use this method, you'll see it once it off, what you need to do is reinstall the bolt and tap the bolt inwards to press the sleeve back in.

    Some times the pump comes off easy, but most of the time it needs to be pried off, then its really difficult to reinstall.
     
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  7. Dec 24, 2023 at 3:39 PM
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    I don’t know if I want to remove it IF I can’t put it back in :) Do I need a special tool? I really want to try the Permatex but not if I can’t get the pump back in.
     
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    Thats kinda my point, if its a bastard to get out, its harder to get back in.

    Again, you re install just the long bolt, many turns in, then tap it with a hammer to push the sleeve back.
     
  9. Dec 24, 2023 at 3:55 PM
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    Thank you for all the help. It’s dark now but I will take a picture tomorrow of what I believe is the sleeve BEFORE I do this so you can tell me yes or no.
     
  10. Dec 24, 2023 at 4:47 PM
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    Are you trying to fix the timing chain cover leak?
    There are two bolt holding the pump. You can get to them through the holes of the pump pulley easy to turn after removing the drive belt. Don’t mix them up with bolts that hold the pump together. After that rock it up and down or pry it out with a flat head screwdriver.
     
  11. Dec 24, 2023 at 4:55 PM
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    Thanks and yes I am trying to clean up the leak behind the pump and then apply the permatex silicone to see if it help, but after removing the bolts I can’t get the pump out. I will try again tomorrow and see how it goes.
     
  12. Dec 24, 2023 at 5:04 PM
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    I see.
    I removed the front tire. Removed the splash guard and it was easier to access that area and cleaning it then applying the silicone. This is what I used. And I am happy to report that there is no leak since. I did it months ago.
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  13. Dec 24, 2023 at 5:06 PM
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    if there is a hardline connection then that would have no flexible give to allow for pump movement

    which means banjo bolt with crush washers and losing fluid

    That if you want to remove either replace the washers or heat them with a torch to expand. With soap rubbed on them. It turns black to let you know stop heating to avoid melting them into a puddle.

    A light sand smooth of the washer surfaces. That’s more jury rig if you have to and don’t have replacements.

    then enough PS fluid on hand (many use red ATF) to refill the system including bleeding air after.

    worth it to have an assorted kit of sealing washers. If not then some hardware stores and whatnot carry them.

    done the torch soap trick many times without issue.
     
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  14. Dec 24, 2023 at 5:12 PM
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    Thank you. That’s exactly the right stuff I ordered.
     
  15. Dec 25, 2023 at 7:50 AM
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    @Bishop84 @Nalex I was able to take a clear picture of the BACK of the steering pump. The arrow is pointing to the piece that is holding the pump even after removing the long bolt. Do I supposed to tap that piece with the long bolt just enough to allow the pump to slide out? What's killing me is that the factory service manual didn't mention this step at all.

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    My kid wanted to help.

    This piece is the slider, so its threaded and slides outwards/towards the rad to clamp on the pump.

    So with the pump removed, you thread the bolt in, and tap that slider rear wards to allow clearance for the pump.
     
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  17. Dec 25, 2023 at 8:11 AM
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    Thank you for the arrows. Tell your kid I said thanks :). The big arrow is pointing to something that’s impeding the pump from getting loose, I can’t tell if that is part of the pump or if it should fall off after the pump is removed. Any idea?
     
  18. Dec 25, 2023 at 8:15 AM
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    That part is pressed into pump bracket. With 2 bolts removed grab the power steering hose and rock the pump back and forth until it comes out. Use a little hammer or bolt and tap that sleeve back so when you install the pump there will be more clearance. When you tighten the top bolt it will pull that sleeve in tight. Just grab the pump and start rocking it
     
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    Yes, I initially thought, where the arrow is pointing, there is a nut and tried to grab it with a wrench but there is non. As they said above remove the two bolts and the wire connector and rock the pump up and down while pulling it straight. Keep in mind it inserts there tight. It can get jammed if pulled sideways.
     
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  20. Dec 25, 2023 at 12:03 PM
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    Thank you everyone for your help. There’s no way I could have gotten it out without your help. Once I understood what needs to be done, I used a long socket extension and tap it from the top down, and finally got it out. Now the real fun begins by cleaning everything (so nasty in there).
     
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