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Having dealership install lift?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by coolbhavin, Dec 28, 2017.

  1. Dec 28, 2017 at 10:58 PM
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    coolbhavin

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    Does anyone know if having a dealership install a lift kit on the truck keep the warranty on the suspension of the truck? I know most dealerships void warranty for suspension if you install the kit yourself or have another shop do it for you but couldn’t find an answer as to what would happen if you have the dealership install your kit for you. Thank in advance!
     
  2. Dec 28, 2017 at 11:20 PM
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    Uh, if it’s a Toyota OEM lift, maybe, but there are none. There was another post here by a member that bought a truck with a dealer installed lift and he had to pay for his needle bearing related issues due to the warranty problems caused by the lift. Someone may post that link here.
     
  3. Dec 28, 2017 at 11:48 PM
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    Technically you could buy the OEM suspension from a TRD Pro...
     
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  4. Dec 28, 2017 at 11:49 PM
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    Ouch$!
     
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  5. Dec 29, 2017 at 5:10 AM
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    Sounds like one of those "grey" areas. My local Toyota dealer sells tacomas/tundras lifted all the time with those cheaper Procomp spacer lifts and they warranty those. Maybe talk with a couple different dealers and see what they say.
     
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  6. Dec 29, 2017 at 5:19 AM
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    Doubtful a dealer will install parts you bring them, but you can ask. All they can say is no, or scare the bejeebers out of you with price.

    Dealerships that sell trucks they lifted almost always use cheap parts, big markup, and of course add it into the price of the truck so the buyer can finance it. Pretty much a sucker proposition all around.

    They do claim/offer 'warranty' on mods like this most of the time. But read the fine print. It's not a Toyota warranty, its the manuf. part warranty of what they installed. You might get a break on labor under warranty (like if a shock needed replacement) but that would be about the extent of it's value.

    When you lift on your own, the only warranty that's 'voided' is the parts you swapped out (naturually) and any other component they can *prove* was negatively impacted by the work.

    So for example, do a lift and your AC goes out, your Entune reboots regularly or your third brake light leaks like a sieve; all are still covered, easy peasy.
     
  7. Dec 29, 2017 at 5:23 AM
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    Funny thing is that most dealerships (including brands outside of Toyota) will do everything in their power to void your warranty if you brake stock components offroading and they can prove you were offroading. Same goes for performance street mods if they find out you were at a dragstrip or something.
     
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  8. Dec 29, 2017 at 5:26 AM
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    I couldnt have said it better myself.:thumbsup: Also check this out OP The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
     
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  9. Dec 29, 2017 at 5:47 AM
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    There is a dealer in Western Washington that installs both Toytec and Old Man Emu and your warranty remains the same.

    They are even aware of the needle bearing issue.
     
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  10. Dec 29, 2017 at 5:50 AM
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    They need to have the 'rare bird' award.

    Not quite sure how they'd apply a Toyota warranty to an aftermarket part, but I suspect you mean that they don't nitpick about ancillary items that might be blamed on suspension changes.
     
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    They don't nit pick. Talked to the accessories guy. They have the Toytec product hanging on the wall and a Tacoma out front with the Old Man Emu suspension kit with signs that say ask about me or the product. When asked about the needle bearing issue the manager said we know about that and can take care of that.
     
  12. Dec 29, 2017 at 6:37 AM
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    MCDavis

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    Like others said, totally depends on the dealership.
    My dealer is mod friendly and installed the BDS lift for me as a part of the final dollar (yes I paid more for turnkey). However, I did this because the dealer will honor the modifications...NOT TOYOTA. This is an agreement between me the buyer and them the seller. Luckily this dealer is the largest in VA and isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so that helps. I have all the paperwork, PO's to the installer of the lift, and the paper trail is complete, but I don't expect Toyota to honor much in the ways of support. I have full confidence in my dealer to not hang me out to dry if something arises...which I hope it doesn't.
     
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    not really a grey area. Its in print if you read through your warranty lol.

    pretty simple, if its a TRD lift IE TRD Pro suspension (which isn't going to lift it) it will still be warrantied as long as the dealer installs.

    If its anything aftermarket you may keep warranty from the dealer that installed it in a way, as they will work with you since you gave them business, but in toyota corp warranty it is void. It is not toyota parts so they wont warranty it. If the dealer you are going to is warrantying it its because they're hiding the fact that it was modified to toyota corp where they get the money from. If you're doing a spacer lift or cheap lift sure you can probably get away with it, but if you're doing anything higher end say Fox, Kings, or Icon, good luck.

    This was in the warranty when I got a PDF of it and searched it, and when I contacted Toyota Corporate to have a clear answer as its legal text in the warranty.

    With that said, dealers are often morons and you're better off just taking your chances at a different shop that knows what they're doing when it comes to lifts, especially with the alignment.
    You have to understand that even if they warranty it and something does go wrong with your suspension if its worth more than OEM stuff it will throw some flags. As well realize when you install a lift you are only voiding warranty for things that they can point to as a caused by said lift. If you install a lift and your wipers no longer work they can't say it was the lift. Just be aware some dealers are absolute cunts and will look for anything to point to, to not do warranty work. Obviously you'll have a hard time fighting them on it in the end with Toyota Corp, but if you have a good dealer they might help you out. I know the dealer closest to me are useless fucks and try to point to anything to say its void. But the dealer I bought it from thats about 45min drive away have already told me they will work with me but I have to understand certain things they really cannot help with.

    Just an FYI which I learned from a family friend that worked 18 years as a service manager for Chrysler, and it works the same for any dealer, if a dealer is constantly doing warranty work, more so than another dealer head office will start to cut back their approval. Say a dealer is authorized for X amount of money per warranty claim and they are claiming multiples every week and much more to other dealers hed office may step in and reduce the amount they are approved for without reviewing the claim. At that point a dealer will start to cut back on how much they do and turning away warranty work for the dumbest excuses possible. Also some shop foreman and managers will get higher bonuses for less warranty work so again they might turn away stuff, and when you give them an excuse like a lift it just makes it easier.

    I'm speaking on experience here after dealing with a piece of shit dealer that tried to tell me my entire powertrain and driveline warranty was void because I was running a 265 70 17 on my 2017 off road. After contacting Toyota corporate about how they lied about performing work, the customer service rep I talked to even let it slip that said dealer has very limited warranty claims so they will be looking into it and following up with why the service manager lied about performing work they didn't do (caught it on my dash cam that they never actually put it on the lift to perform trans fluid check)

    And considering the mobtown skid has an access hatch for the oil filter and their tech couldn't figure that out and was about to drop my whole skid. I wouldn't feel confident in any of their work. I mean you'd think seeing a thick heavy skid with a little access hatch you'd open that before taking off the whole skid.
     
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    This was a lof of good information. I can feel my LF wheel bearing on its way out so I scheduled to have it taken care of because I have the extended warranty on the truck. My truck is lifted on Kings 2" and im running 32" tires (265/70/17). Do you think I will have any issues with my warranty claim for a wheel bearing? I can't picture the lift doing much damage to a wheel bearing.
     
  15. Jan 3, 2018 at 10:11 AM
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    Invite some friends over, order some pizzas and get some beer, learn a few things, save your money and have a good time with friends. You also have the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act on your side. I have yet to void my warranty for anything on my grocery getter. :luvya: the stealership!!
     
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    Which dealer in VA is this!?
     
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    Huntington Beach Toyota in CA will install aftermarket lifts on their new trucks. They have some pre lifted on the lot or you can have them add a lift of your choice on a truck you buy from them and they will cover factory Warranty and lift parts Warranty. If you have them add a lift to a truck you already own they only cover issues if they installed the lift incorrectly for 90 days. Like someone else posted, this is a deal you make with Huntington Beach Toyota not Toyota corp.

    Both Magnuson-Moss and most state Consumer protection laws are specific that they manufactures have the burden of proof that the aftermarket part you put on, directly caused the brake down.
    Example: refusing to fix a broken fuel injector because you added seat covers. An extreme example but you get the idea. It may take you awhile to litigate to get things right. I think most manufactures will honor a warranty unless it’s clear you caused the issue. They have to pay a pretty substantial penalty if you prove they violated the law. In some states if the preponderance of evidence shows the manufacturer violated the law, the manufacturer can be ordered to pay all your legal costs any related expenses like rental car, and up to 3x the cost to fix the issue.
    If your having issues with a manufacturer honoring a Warranty, contact your states Consumer protection bureau or state attorney general.
     
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    I would say not Haley :) I've asked them about lifts/suspension parts and they
    will not install them. They do however get a place to put spacer & block lifts on
    new vehicles and bump the price up about 8-10K :eek:
     
  19. Jan 3, 2018 at 11:41 AM
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    NO AFTERMARKET MODIFICATIONS VOID A WARRANTY.

    You maintain100% of your factory warranty on Toyota parts from manufacturer defects no matter how you modify the vehicle.

    Don’t let any stealership try to convince you otherwise.

    I would never have a dealer instal a lift kit. Have a specialty 4x4 shop do it for you or a good independent shop you know will do a good job and warrantg their work.
     
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    Now how do you argue with the dealership when they tell you your aftermarket lift is the reason your wheel bearing failed. Its just your word against theirs at that point.
     
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