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Gun Shot Wound to My 23’ TRD OR.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Drew2you, Sep 27, 2024.

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  1. Sep 29, 2024 at 7:37 AM
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    i get the attempted comedy by most on here but i was driving as a dip shit passenger was changing uppers like a fool pulled trigger. this truck was bout new by my dad. he paid 20k down and 2 months of payment then with out any warning he passed away and shattered my world. the third payment came due and i paid it off for 27k. he was the best and all i had. excuse me for being this way but i really would like some advice from knowledgeable people on here. i get it being ridiculous and i get the situation shouldn’t have happened but it did and now im here. i m no wanna be toy soldier or whatever else i’m just a country boy that has guns to play with on hand it had a suppressor on and it added additional length and probably the only reason it was pointed at the floor so please try to throw me some opinions to help me figure his out
     
  2. Sep 29, 2024 at 7:45 AM
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    i would also argue that a 5.56 would cause the same amount of truck damage even if it went through a persons foot and/or leg, just with added bloodiness and screaming. 5.56, as my uncle once so eloquently put it is "like a fukin rifle powered drill bit"

    the good news is that no one was seriously hurt, and in 5 years around the thankgiving table, the story can be told for laughs, and possibly free favors from the shooter.


    i agree with what's already been said-- repair the o2 sensor wires first, then go through the check/refill process on the transmission, being that the line is repaired. personally, i don't care for screwing with the fluids that much, so i'd suggest taking it to a shop for their techs to get all covered in ATF while doing it. cheaper than my swear jar donations and oildry for the driveway.

    but the process isn't too difficult, if you want to seek to avoid further explanation of the circumstances and do it yourself.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNqYpEpmUng

    there was a valid point of ricochet and shrapnel though. the bullet had to stop somewhere, and the trans lines/o2 wires clearly didn't stop it-- i'd thoroughly inspect the rest of the underside of the truck(following the path, but also considering the splashback angle if it shattered and bounced upon ground impact), and also consider taking the center console out of the truck to inspect the penetration area for wiring harnesses that aren't immediately visible. i don't believe there's any harnesses that run through the area described, but there are harnesses that run near the area, and they're worth at least getting some fingers on for an inspection for nicks, or cuts within the 6" radius of the penetration.

    overall, you and the rifle owner are extremely lucky. i'd suggest not bothering with your typical lottery games for a while. you've used up all your luck for at least a few months in this incident!
     
  3. Sep 29, 2024 at 7:47 AM
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    I was genuinely just curious, no harm meant! I hope my previous post was at least somewhat helpful.
     
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    thanks buddy. it’s pretty clear the trajectory of this bullet and don’t know if i mentioned but it also had suppressor on it which gave the only option to be anywhere but pointed at floorboard.
     
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    he was sitting in passenger seat and barrel had suppressor attached and was touching the floor mat maybe 3-4 in from the center console in the crease where floorboards start angling up
     
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    I would think the 16-22 sensors are the same. If it were me, I’d try a new sensor.
    The misfire is probably being caused by the sensor. But it’s odd a downstream (2) sensor would cause a misfire?

    Anyways, fix that sensor.

    I’d also inspect the transmission coolant warmer/cooler. I post the diagram in my earlier post.
     
  7. Sep 29, 2024 at 8:27 AM
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    well i was erasing the codes as they came up and it would run fine but when it would be strained like starting up an incline it would loose power an rattle like hell. every toyota i’ve had (5 between 89’-23’) have had some rattling valves or whatever but nothing like this was. i also read somewhere that limp mode would have trans stuck in 2 gears only and i wonder if it did actually get hot. i just can’t see it happening that fast. i mean i was only driving for 5-7 min. it was i think 4.8 miles
     
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    You’d rather a 5.56 round went through your leg than the truck..? Did I read that correctly? If so, good god. Gunshot wounds to limbs can still be fatal.

    Mistakes were made upon entering a closed space with firearms not verified to be unloaded, AND woefully incompetent passengers in possession of loaded firearms. You and your friend got lucky and this is a wake up call some people only get once.

    Firearms demand respect. Pay attention to what you’re doing and those around you. Treat each one as if it’s loaded; this is one of countless examples why.
     
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    also keep in mind i know this wasn’t my finest idea but all i have otherwise is a harley and if you live any where close to south east you know why i was attempting to drive my truck. you do what you have to sometimes or i do atleast. i cant afford to just have dealership comb thru it and charge me a ridiculous fee. the guy responsible gave me $11 dollars that day after it happened so he’s no longer of any help plus his car won’t start so there went that idea of taking it soo i’m just trying to get thru this situation with least resistance.
     
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    @Drew2you - Good advice from @soundman98 and @TnShooter. Time do your own ‘crime scene’ investigation and reconstruct the path of the bullet. Can you trace/project the path of the bullet? Is there any other damage?

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    Hopefully, the computer shut things down before any serious damage to the transmission. The cut O2 wires should not have hurt anything, but the ECU won’t be too happy. So far, this sounds ‘repairable’.

    Sorry to hear about your dad. My mom has Alzheimer’s. Her last vehicle purchase was a Ford Ranger, because it reminder her of growing up on a farm and learning to drive in a truck. Even though I just got my Taco, I want to keep the Ranger.

    Good luck with your ‘bulletproof’ Taco. :thumbsup:
     
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    You say that you could see fluid running out as you were adding coolant to the radiator. If it is running out that quickly you could have run it completely dry, which could do bad (BAD) things to the engine.

    Time for a professional to give it a look I think. Have it towed.
     
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    i’d ask you the same but you obviously don’t know my gun and uppers. with the 22 when you empty a clip and release it the reassessing mechanism will hang open and will not take another clip until it’s released and back where it’s supposed to be. how about you treat me with some respect. enough to assume since this is my life and possessions that i know what i’m talking about. there’s no part of this incident my fault unless you want to consider the fact i was attempting to help a buddy get thru a rough patch in his life by going to pick him up and riding him around and letting him shoot my gun. nothing good ever comes from helping some people yet i’ll drop what i’m doing to try if they ask. i guess if that’s a fault then im always gonna pay for stuff like this. why? because i care and im not an ass hole.
     
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    IIRC - the computer uses the O2 sensor output to adjust the A/F ratio. So, without the O2 data, the computer might start going full rich or full lean. If it sees no response on the O2, it might go into limp mode (?) or shut things down (?). The experts can explain better.

    If the sensors weren’t physically damaged, then you should be able to splice/repair/replace the wiring and be back in business.
     
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    You don't have to explain your self to anyone man.
    Especially on the internet. You're just wasting your time.

    Things happen. We move on. Then deal with the next thing to happen.
    That's life.

    Let's fix that truck.
    Again, I'd start with the sensor.
    The truck will NOT run right until it's fixed.
     
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    IMG_5936.jpgthis is where the bullet hit. i have trimmed some of the metal off but it just ripped thru the top and pulled the wires out as it split it in half


    there’s no fixing this. now i’m looking for a replacement. heated bank 1 sensor 2. no one seems to have exactly what i need for 23’. however the 16-22 model sensor looks like same. i’m wondering if the fitment just has not been updated. all part stores locally don’t have anything in system for 23 which leads me to think that i may be able to pick up a 22 yr model and replace with it but i dont know which is obvious by now i suppose and is the reason im here.
     
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    My source gives the part numbers for the 2023.
    I added the link below.

    When you type the part number into Google, the results say it fits 2016-2023.

    https://partsouq.com/en/catalog/gen...XJtdmNkcwAAAAABTUaD$&vid=0&cid=&uid=345700&q=


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    @Drew2you

    Get a bucket or small container of water. Let the fluid from cut line dribble into the water. If there are droplets floating on top of the water, it’s most likely ATF fluid. (hydraulic oil is less dense than water and floats on top.) If it dissolves/mixes with the water, then it’s most likely coolant.

    If you are adding coolant to the radiator, but getting ATF fluid out of the cut line, then we have a different problem.

    Also, photos of the damage, when you have time.
     
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    tnshooter's got you covered on the sensor, so time for a little fun of the situation ;)

    i just gotta admit. that's a damn good shot for not trying. and he took out the sensor itself without effecting the wiring plug, or the exhaust pipe! maybe your passenger should shoot at his targets blind? he might hit them better.

    i expand my 'avoid lottery tickets' suggestion to at least 2 years.
     
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    He's ragging on you about the use of the term "clip" vs. "magazine." It's a well known trigger (sorry for the pun).
     
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    Very fortunate nobody got hurt along with the truck damage. Very few people know about the dif between a soft piont bullet for hunting vs a full metal jacket. In this case a soft point likely would have disentigrated shortly. A full metal jacket (which I assume this was) could have found an easy path right back into the cab or who knows where it went as in this case.

    I spent four years in Army Airborne Infantry in 74-78 and heard stories of why the M16 5.56 was called black death in Viet Nam. One story was a guy got hit in the shoulder area from the front and the bullet procedded to hit the shoulder blade and took a lesser path of resistance down through the ribcage to the pelvic bone and then cross to the opposite side. Upon hitting the opposite side of the pelvic it then headed south and came out at the knee. Scary shit!

    Another one was when a tiger was encountered on patrol and ran through the platoon with guys opening up on it. One guy got hit from the side just below his ear and the bullet went straight through his neck and only knocking him out. No serious damage, Full recovery. Only 55grn slugs but deadly and scary.

    I'm suspecting you had CHEAPER easy aquired FMJ 5.56 for fun shooting. Thankfully it wasn't worse and I hope you get it going again and when you do...Get a purple heart sticker for it.
     
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