FIPG get the real stuff or is there better cheaper?

Doing a bit of research.

Going to be doing a clutch so going to do the rear main seal while I'm there. Looked at rear main seals on RockAuto , Autozone etc and see they come with the seal and a U shaped gasket.

Ended up going with a genuine Toyota seal and when I ordered it the Toyota place says no gasket and to use FIPG.

So, question is, best to order a tube of FIPG to do the job or is there something commerically available from the local parts house just as good, better and cheaper?

I'm also probably going to have to remove the transfer case from the adaptor housing to see if I can find a gear oil leak I'm having that runs down onto the transmission mount. By the look of it, some sort of orange silicone (FIPG maybe) has been used between those. That sound correct?

Guess there are different grades as I've seen black listed for oil pan type use. Guess the orange has different specs?

Again, looking for an education here and wondering if best to order the Toyota stuff or regular commerically available products just as good and less money?

Cheers

 

most likely the toyota stuff is made by one of the big brands such as permatex, so it would all be the same. read the package because a lot of times it will say "toyota spec 123456789 approved" on the package of the sealers from auto zone, advance, etc

 

I'd just get ultra grey or ultra black and call it a day. Ultra copper for high temp stuff.

 

Interesting on the "spec" numbers and thanks all for the input! I'll have to take a look this weekend.

Been looking around at the Toyota stuff and see black (

$21 00295-00103 Formed-in-Place Oil Pan Gasket - 3 oz. Tube

00295-00103 believe is the number I have jotted) being used for the oil pan etc.

When I get to the manual transmission they are using orange

$35 00295-01281 Formed-in-Place Transmission Gasket - 3.5 oz. Tube

00295-01281. Even discounted online that stuff is $17 for a small squeeze tube! Something like $23 list!

I can see if it has some special properties or things in it, but it not.....

 

Okay so did a little research on the permatex site and talked to a person there. Very interesting. Then got a page (more updated I guess then the website data on each product and found that the 00295-01281 is directly covered by Ultra Grey Permatex gasket maker.

Here is the link:
http://www.permatexkorea.co.kr/doc/help/table/chart4.html

EDIT: When you click the link it comes up with a language support install box. I just click not to install and the page comes up where you can read it.

If you scan to the left of the Ultra Grey you'll see a whole raft of OEM Toyota numbers this meets requirements for. We'll if the link works that is.

Also, while searching Ultra Grey I found that Marlin Crawler uses it on building their stuff.

So, looks like we have a winner on the 00295-01281.

 

I have used both and highly prefer the Toyota fipg it sets up better and quicker than the permatex stuff. Plus do you really want to pull the trans again to fix it if the cheap stuff doesn't hold

 

Loctite makes RTV as well FWIW. Though I've never used it, I'd have to believe that shit's good.

 

Thanks for all the input!
Cheers

 

FWIW?????

Ok' I hate to throw a wrench in the ring here on an old thread but I just hit the 1st link below while (screwing off ) searching for new subs for Toyota 1282b code FIPG.
Chart states use Ultra black perm, "not" grey like the first chart posted here by OP shows for the Toys 1282b code?

First I figured its due to being changed or discontinued? But then I looked at the actual links themselves and noticed the chart link the OP hit was Korea and I hit an Australia chart?
But' why are they different between countries? Why black not grey? Typo? I believe so, but If so' alot of Toys in the outback used the black instread.
http://www.itwpf.com.au/permatex/pdfs/approvals/7.pdf

It also matches OP correctly here 1282b code is Ultra Grey on Tech sheet (TDS). This is Perms website btw. I first used this grey on my 22re timing chain a few yrs back instead of Toys oem and have used it ever since, works just fine so I'll stick with it unless Toys drops $$. Just thought I'd post chart differences I found for future members, fwiw. Peace!
http://www.permatex.com/products-2/...torque-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker-82194-detail

 

I've been looking into this same thing myself & found the permatex application chart online. It's interesting in that the Ultra Black is recommended on oil pans for domestics. Says nothing about imports. The Ultra Grey though it says it's oil resistant doesn't say for use in oil pans. Right Stuff Black 1min gasket maker isn't meant for import vehicle oil pans either nor is their Right Stuff Grey. These are the most popular ones & the ones that people swear to. The only one that according to their application chart is for import vehicle oil pans is the Optimum Black Gasket Maker. I have yet to read any post in which the Optimum Black is even discussed. Go figure?

 

To me it sounds too ambiguous to say Black, or worse to say Permatex, without specifying. They make 14 different gasket makers and 4 different Black ones.

I wouldn't use FIPG because it's an old formula that they overcharge for and they recommend it on all the spots across the board, while Permatex offers optimized formulas. Some of that is probably marketing, but at least they lay out options and acknowledge the factors, and I got the Right Stuff Black 90 Min because it looked on average the best for the couple things I was planning to use it for. Unfortunately a lot of the time someone might just come across some in the store and say "oh, Permatex, I'll try that" without knowing it might be the wrong one.

I used Right Stuff Black 90 Min successfully on valve covers. One reason I did it is 90 minutes is better for my work pace than 1 minute or 24 hours.

https://permatextraining.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/20507-Permatex-Gasket-Selector-Chart-2-1.pdf