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F150 XLT V8 10 SPEED vs Tacoma 3rd GEN V6 MT

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Kamille.bidan, Dec 10, 2018.

  1. Dec 10, 2018 at 9:22 PM
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    Kamille.bidan

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    Long story short. I got rear ended, and i am renting a F150 V8 10 speed while I my truck is in the shop.

    I have never driven this generation F150. It's a nice truck. Well-built. Smooth Engine. the 10 speed is actually amazing. I read some complaints about the 10 speed, but I don't even notice that it changes gears so many times.

    I like hearing that Coyote V8, but..... Honestly..... I feel like my Tacoma pulls a little bit harder. I don't know if it's because I normally drive a standard transmission, but my Tacoma feels a bit more peppy than the Coyote V8. I

    When I first jumped in to the F150, the MPG average meter was 18MPG. After about two days behind the wheel, I could only manage to get 15MPG. I don't think I can complain about mileage in my Tacoma anymore. Obviously, the problem is my heavy foot.

    Overall, the F150 is huge. it's way too big for me. Doesn't feel like a boat because it's not big and floaty like an old Cadillac. It actually has a suspension that is dialed-in quite well. It's just too-wide, and there is too much space in the interior. I fit into to most parking spaces, but it always feels tight.

    My Tacoma feels more personal, more involved and more connected to the road.

    Honestly, I don't see a huge difference in quality in Ford vs. Toyota. Both trucks seem to be Well built. Ford has a vastly superior infotainment system and that's a fact.

    Can't wait to get back into my Tacoma though.
     
  2. Dec 10, 2018 at 11:07 PM
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    shakerhood

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    Sorry to hear about your truck getting damaged, hope it gets fixed. I did a quick Youtube search for a 5.0 F-150, this one seems to accelerate pretty quickly.
     
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  3. Dec 11, 2018 at 3:32 AM
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    There, there. Get some rest. While I am a LS guy, I have to give credit where credit is due. Ford makes a great V8. And their new TTV6 makes awesome torque. My buddy has the smaller of the two and he's getting 23mpg on the highway. (We got 19mpg pulling my boat to the lake in it.) Their old inline 6 made more torque than the 5.0 back in the day. The Ford dealership was right across the street from my Taco dealer. There is a very good reason I did not go across the street and drive one.

    As an aside, I had a Kia Stinger GT pull up and pick a fight with my 6.0 liter, well-prepped, national record holding G8. Ran from 80 to 130 (disclaimer: in another country, of course, and very rural, with no other vehicles in site), and to my surprise she ran dead even with me. Over-confidently gave her the hit and she pulled a half length on me that I stopped but did not recover. She was spooled, and I had just arrogantly left mine in normal shift, her 1/2 length gained while mine down-shifted. Surely didn't see that coming. She was good...and brought her A game! Gotta' give Kia its due. Kia has its snarf in one sock on these.
     
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  4. Dec 11, 2018 at 3:54 AM
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    Put that thing in sport mode, and you won't have any issues about acceleration. Driving the new fords without sport mode gives them a little bit of a limp feeling, double tap that button and get moving!

    Taco is better built and more reliable (yes even with the tsbs) but the Ford engine, tranny, seating are better...while it works.

    The Ford can't close the doors when it's cold out, and the defroster didn't do anything and I couldn't see while driving in the winters. The door thing has been a tsb since 2016 and now a recall. Their fix doesn't fix it, and they are still making trucks 4 years later that can't operate safely in anything below 32 degrees. Look at their forum and you will see. It's what made me trade in for my taco, wife wouldn't drive with me past fall.
     
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  5. Dec 11, 2018 at 3:56 AM
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    Youre comparing 395hp to 278hp and saying your truck feels more peppy?
     
  6. Dec 11, 2018 at 4:00 AM
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    I too rented an F150 when my wife’s car got rear ended, it had the coyote, it would demolish my Tacoma in a drag race. I almost bought one, but I decided I wanted a manual instead.
     
  7. Dec 11, 2018 at 4:15 AM
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    Last time I traveled for work, my rental was an F-150 with the 3.5 eco boost.
    Oh boy, that was fun. I drove it like a rental. It’s definitely what I’d buy if I wanted another full size truck. I just like my MT taco too much.
     
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  8. Dec 11, 2018 at 4:29 AM
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    Don't care about any F15 Zero's. I like my Tacoma

    Best selling truck for 40 years?
     
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  10. Dec 11, 2018 at 6:09 AM
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    Second gen folks are saying 236 feels more peppy that 278....so......you know.......just saying.......

    The ass dyno is a fickle thing. It takes years fine tuning it just so.
     
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    If I could do it again I would buy an F150

    More truck for the money and better MPG to boot!
     
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    Yep! Will be my next purchase.
     
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    I have had F150's in the past and have had very good luck with them. I checked them out before I bought my 2017 Tacoma and realized that I really don't need that much truck. Kids are grown, it is just the wife and I and my hauling days are over except for the occasional board or two for home projects. My access cab Sport fills the bill quite nicely. I really didn't need the 2017 as my 2006 Tacoma was doing just great, but I had to have my prostate removed so I replaced it with the 2017.
     
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    Owning a Ranger in the 1990s is why I bought a Toyota to replace it. But that was 25 years ago and I'm not so sure the gap is that wide anymore. I have to be honest that I'm watching the Ranger with interest because Ford is apparently giving Toyota a real run for its Hilux market position overseas with the Ranger. We'll see how they tailored (neutered) it for the U.S. and what's the build quality in Michigan compared to the Aussie-engineered and Thai-built one.
     
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    If I lived in a more rural area I'd probably have an F150, for driving around and parking in my area a midsize just makes more sense for me, plus I like the 6MT.

    I've had good luck with Fords over the years.
     
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    I bought my 3rd Gen Tacoma in Dec 2015, at that time my choices had narrowed to 2 trucks: Tacoma OR or a Regular cab, short bed 5.0 F150.

    No Ford dealer would even talk to me about ordering a reg cab 5.0. Ford had allready limited the reg cab to only XL and XLT versions, but you could option it up fairly nicely. Today I can find reg cab short beds on the lots of larger dealers, ordering a 5.0 probably would be a cinch. But for me a paid for Tacoma is fine.

    P.S. Those new 10 speeds are awesome, until you drive one you won't understand how right they got it. For one, it doesn't shift 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10. It picks the gear needed for the condition, it may start in 2nd shift to 3rd the 4th, then 6th, then 8th etc, Almost a seamless trans
     
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    Is it still sequential and how does it work under load or climbing grades? IOW, does it have a bigger delay skipping gears or abrupt kick down? It's been a long time since I drove an automatic transmission and one thing I like about stick is that if I need to I can go from 5th straight to 3rd or something like that if I need to, which is seems like this shift logic is mimicking.
     
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    Not sure on this, but a GREAT feature of the f-150 is the gear locking. So when towing you can keep the truck in 1-3rd range or whatever you choose. I know you can manually shift on the taco which is nice too and sorta does the same thing. I had a column shifter on my f-150 tho so I couldn't do that and the lock out feature was great in the mountains towing or just going slow.
     
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    Cool @Bridge4. I've been thinking I need to test drive some modern cars to see how all this works. Our last two purchases were my '08 Tacoma, which I bought because it was as close to the 1991 it replaced as I could find, and her '17 Forester which we got specifically as base model with manual because Subaru was rumored to be killing the stick shift (which did eventually happen on the 2019).
     
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