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Elka or Kings

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Cement_Sport_Taco, Jun 25, 2020.

  1. Jun 27, 2020 at 8:57 AM
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    Matmo215

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    Sounds like an OME full kit would serve you well.
     
  2. Jun 27, 2020 at 1:50 PM
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    I have OME BP-51'S And when yes they are incredibly nice, I may be moving to Elka in the near future. Why the switch? I've had two failures of the lower spherical bearings in the OME's and I'm ready for a change. The Elka setups I've gotten my hands on look incredible and I've heard nothing but good things.
     
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  3. Jun 27, 2020 at 1:54 PM
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    I was referring to the standard OME kit w dakars lol. I’ve also heard great things about Elka
     
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  4. Jun 27, 2020 at 2:35 PM
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    I wouldn’t call them failures considering they are wear items and have to be replaced when worn just like any other 2.5 front coilover or high end shock
     
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  5. Jun 27, 2020 at 2:52 PM
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    - ICON UCAs, BP51/Kings, SCS wheels, 285s, Leer 100XR canopy. Greenlane aluminum winch bumper, Smittybilt X20 winch. Trying Falken AT3w now, Really like BF KO2s.
    Go for Elka, they have high and low speed compression adjustments as well I think they will be able to handle our winter conditions better. Accutune says they rebuild kings more often.
    I saw a truck the other day with the 2.5 Elkas and it looked really good.
     
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  6. Jun 27, 2020 at 5:38 PM
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    I hear ya and somewhat agree. The short time frame they've failed in each time is more the issue.
     
  7. Jun 27, 2020 at 6:27 PM
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    totally understand that. It’s not an expensive or hard fix, but tedious since you have to pull the strut completely out to replace it.
     
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    ADS. Keep your OEM coilovers and put a cheap spacer on them when you need to rebuild the racing shocks.

    There's so many factors on when you will want to refresh them its hard to say.

    I've gone through 4 'lift kits' and can truly say I believe in buy once cry once.
     
  9. Jun 27, 2020 at 8:49 PM
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    Bingo.
     
  10. Jun 27, 2020 at 9:37 PM
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    Good advice for the person that never wants to service their own shocks. Waiting for weeks on rebuilds is rather ridiculous.


    I’m a little surprised more people don’t service/rebuild their own shocks. It’s not hard at all. Hell, it takes me longer to remove the 14” Kings from my junk than it takes to rebuild and charge. Oil and o-ring kit usually runs me under 40.00 to do it myself, in the comfort of my own home, when it’s convenient for me.

    My crew has even rebuilt shocks on top of a washer/dryer of an AIRB&B...may have had a few drinks mixed in there as well.

    For Kings:

    oil, o-ring kit, N2 charge kit with zero loss adapter. I built my own N2 kit for cheap(ish) for well under what most “kits” run. I think I’m at 300.00 or less.
     
  12. Jun 27, 2020 at 10:34 PM
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    this is good info right here
     
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    I'm interested to see more info of your setup.
     
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  14. Jun 27, 2020 at 10:41 PM
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    I'm reading oside's thread right now. been planning to start and learn on my old Foxes, which are the stopgaps for when I'm [planning to] rebuild my Kings. I'm also looking into learning the valving so i can do it myself and dial it in. so, thanks, this is right on.
     
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  18. Jun 28, 2020 at 7:21 AM
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    People make this a lot harder than it really is. I started rebuilding shocks with my sport quads/MX bikes. The local guy I used would go out to the racetrack with me to really fine tune my suspension. When I took this over myself, it would take a bit longer. However, saving 1000.00 per year on shock tuning made me forget all about it.

    Tuning is the hard part. As long as you understand it will take some time for the fine tuning to get the desired results. I remember chatting with @jberry813 on his suspension on his toy. He had around 200 hours into his setup (coilovers and bypasses). Of course he wasn’t complaining when launching that truck either. Research his suspension threads. Another great resource.
     
  19. Jun 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM
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    i've put so much time into the truck so far and it's been all about handling and chassis control all the way through. for my application the stock King valving is a very good solid start, and i've been assessing performance since installing a few months ago. the Foxes were such dogs i couldn't get into the details of assessment. the Kings bring all the information, so i've been digesting it and looking into the future to consider how i would change their performance through revalving. Accutune was on my radar and i've dialoged with them, but shipping to CA from TX, and relying on translating my impressions to them through words at great expense sounds like an inefficient way to not achieve my goals.

    if i want to do this right i need to do it myself. so i'm going deeper with this now, just needed a little help with info to get started. really exciting since i'm getting the whole front end fully rebuilt in 2 weeks, which will load me up with all kinds of new info/considerations for the shock performance (pulling out everything again and starting over, this time with gusseted spindles/knuckle, shock towers, upper and lower arms, adjustable end links, and taking her from 4.0 to 5.0 caster and it'll be game on with a fresh start).
     
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  20. Jun 28, 2020 at 2:34 PM
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    Having a N2 charge setup is very convenient for other things as well. My double barrel needed a few pounds.

    8BC1FDFE-3F07-4D7F-99DA-BD2D82387E28.jpg

    This thread sparked my curiosity on my Kings...8D424C8B-2988-4E22-9660-8DC7F4ABE70D.jpg

    They were a little low on all corners with CO/bumps. Charged back up to 200 psi.
     

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