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Eibach Pro-Truck lift system Stage 1 question

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by thegrandpoohbah, Apr 15, 2021.

  1. Apr 15, 2021 at 9:04 PM
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    thegrandpoohbah

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    Thinking about getting this kit installed for a mild lift: https://eibach.com/us/1525/E80-82-007-01-22-TOYOTA-Tacoma-pro-truck-lift-system. Mostly highway and forest service roads, no serious off-roading. Just wondering why it states 0-1" lift for the rear. How is it doing that with just a pair of shocks?

    If it matters, I will be pairing this with Firestone airbags and an Air Lift 74000 compressor with wireless remote for towing.
     
  2. Apr 15, 2021 at 9:51 PM
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    I have these suspension and not sure why it states that either. I do have a single aal in the rear with the overload so approximately 2inch.
     
  3. Apr 15, 2021 at 10:09 PM
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    Anyone know what would happen if I just got the kit by itself with no AAL in the rear? Would it level out the factory rake or will my front end up too high?
     
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    The 0-1" lift in the rear is NOT achieved with the shocks. Rather the shocks are able to be used on a lift up to 1". If shorter shocks are used on too big of a lift they would extend too far at full droop and damage the shock. I cant comment on whether that kit will level w/o a rear AAL, Maybe someone who owns the kit can chime in. But I know that my truck is level with Bilstein 5100 with 2" coils from headstrong offroad and a 3 leaf AAL in the rear.
     
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    It will be too high in the front. I am on the first notch with my Eibach stage 1 lift and have an Icon AAL and its just about perfectly level.
     
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    Thanks guys. Looks like I need to get the shop to price out an AAL as well.
     
  7. Apr 17, 2021 at 12:05 AM
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    Here's another question that just occurred to me. I am running 265/70R17 tires right now without any issue. Will the lift kit result in fender rub?
     
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    I have this setup paired with Camburg UCAs. I really like it. I’ll upgrade to full LT at some point but for now this is great. (No AAL in the rear)

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    Very unlikely, especially if you do not rub now. However, depends on your wheels offset and your alignment settings. I do not rub with 255/80/17’s.

    I will always suggest getting an UCA to get your alignment where you want it to be after a lift.
     
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    Im running 285/75/16 and big spacers and I don’t rub
     
  11. Apr 19, 2021 at 9:36 PM
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    So I went to chat with the guy at the shop today and he actually recommended that I don't bother with an AAL as it wouldn't ride as well without a constant load on the back. The guy has a pretty built up 1st gen Taco so I am inclined to believe that he knows what he is talking about. So I am going to go ahead with just the Eibach kit for now and see how that works out. Also, from what I can gather the airbags will add about a half inch of lift as they need to be kept at a minimum of 5 PSI. I can always add an AAL later if it becomes necessary I suppose.
     
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    I mean you could do that, AAL’s aren’t designed for added constant load. More just matched to a better shock. You can always add an AAL later, especially since it does not require an alignment.

    However, you will have the front way higher than the rear. This is lowest notch on the front and before I added the AAL in the rear. 346A7432-DE02-42C1-B510-D7E5A3431F7C.jpg
     
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    Thanks for the input. Sorry this may be a stupid question but what do you mean by lowest notch?
     
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    No worries we all come here to learn what works best for our setup.

    The eibachs similar to the bilsteins come with grooves cut into the shock body. There are I think 3 notches depending on height/load in the front shock where you set the lower spring porch. You place a circlip into that groove to set the height/preload of the spring.

    I had mine placed in the lowest setting for the least amount of lift/load possible since I don’t have a heavy steel bumper and didn’t wanted to be excessively lifted.

    headstrong offroads website shows a good diagram of this when I was deciding my configuration.
     
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    @trailmountain beat me to it. Thank you for your assistance.

    OP we originally designed this kit to be level with the rear at the bottom clip, but every vehicle is a little different and some leafs are more worn than others. If you don't care to upgrade the rear, you could always go with with just the four shocks and use your OE front spring. That being said, our whole system works together beautifully, and I found using the Toytec single AAL was a great solution on my 14', but it eventually sagged over time.
     
  17. Apr 21, 2021 at 5:59 PM
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    Thanks! I'll try the kit first and then add an AAL if I need to.
     
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    Awesome setup! I’ve been thinking doing this set since I’ve been going from Bilstein 5100 and this. But I do see an advantage where Eibach already comes with its own coils.

    How’s the ride/quality?
     
  19. Jun 15, 2022 at 3:39 AM
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    Hello question. what are the negatives if i go over the 1 inch for the rear shocks on the stage 1?
     
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    I went 2” in the rear with the Eibach shocks. I’ve noticed no problems, although I assume my down travel is reduced. But since I’m a lifted pavement-pounding mall-crawler, not much problem for me.
     
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