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Drum Brake Shoe Replacement

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Timmah!, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. Sep 13, 2017 at 1:30 PM
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    Hey my 1st Gen Tacoma Brothers,

    My buddy Sean and I have another video for you. If you were looking for a comprehensive tutorial on how to do a rear brake shoe job, we've got it right here for you.

    Here's the video and Enjoy the Show!

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/IJkVEBYSecs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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  2. Oct 16, 2018 at 12:39 PM
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    Thanks for the vid Tim !!
    Used it for reference yesterday while going thru my braking system. Refresher course in removing the drums and use of the adjuster to accomplish drum removal.

    Had one question that came up with my truck. At about 4:18 the FSM is shown with the 'Adjust Bellcrank' topic and the distance between adjusting bolt and backing plate. What is the importance of this?
    After adding new leafs, my parking brake cable 'rides' across the top of the leaf pack and the 'C' distance, is much greater than .04 - 0.8 mm - much, much more...
     
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    My question is this. Why does Toyota still use drum brakes? Is there an advantage or is this just some money saving feature.
     
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    The bell crank adjustment affects how well your brakes will self-adjust. From the sound of it, you might need a parking brake lift bracket. Did these springs give you a lift over stock height? I know Toytec and Sonoran Steel sell lift brackets and that will help correct the parking cable and get your bell crank distances to the proper spec.
     
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    Good question. I think because most of the braking strength comes from the front brakes, Toyota feels 4 wheel disk isn't really necessary for trucks and SUVs. But, I imagine it is a money savings for the overall cost to build the vehicle.
     
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    These leafs did give me add'l lift. And the brakes only needed adjustment, so it makes some sense that they were not being properly 'automatically' adjusted. It took quite a few 'pulls' on the parking brake lever/handle to get the number of 'clicks' down and the pedal feels much better now and I could hear the toothed wheel click with each pull. I'll take a look into the products you mentioned - Thank you

    FWIW I did the Brake Proportioning bracket years ago with my first lift, But added 3 more leafs since then...
     
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    I think for sure the lift bracket will help your situation. Without a lift bracket, the parking brake doesn't pull as evenly to both wheels. With the lift bracket, it will work like it did before the lift.
     
  8. Oct 16, 2018 at 2:35 PM
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    I looked at both ToyTec and Sonoran Steel on the internets, I'm not sure I saw anything that will help me - LPV extension?
    http://www.sonoransteel.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_10 - parking brake cable rear axle bracket?

    After looking under the truck during lunch, I don't see how any bracket is going to work. I may need longer cables, or remove leaves/overload and get the leaf pack 'thinner' - I'm better than an inch away from the backing plate(s).

    What are other doing when they are stacking 8, 9, or more leaves???

    Sorry to hijack this thread...
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/parking-brake-bell-crank-cables.573149/
     
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    Hey guys, quick brake question... when I stop short my truck dips forward as if there’s not much coming from the rear brakes. I just installed the Tundra 231’s a few months back. Could it be I need to replace my rear drums or another culprit?
     
  11. Oct 17, 2018 at 7:46 AM
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    The rear shoes last an incredibly long time. It's more than likely they aren't properly adjusted. Do you use your parking brake on a regular basis? Your rear brakes stay adjusted by regular use of the parking brake. When you pull the handle up with moderate pressure, not Hulk strength, you should get 7-9 clicks. If you're getting more than that, your rear brakes are out of adjustment. Pull the parking brake lever over and over again until you get to the 7-9 click range.

    But, now that you have stronger braking in the front, a hard stop could cause your front end to dive like your experiencing. I have the TBU on my 98 4runner and my front end will dive on a very abrupt stop.
     
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  12. Oct 17, 2018 at 10:29 AM
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    Yes, anytime I’m parking on a slop I will use my parking brake and put it into rather 1st or reverse (whichever is opposite direction I’m parked)

    Is there a directional control valve that directs brake fluid evenly from front to back.
     

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