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Does "Bedding in" your stock OEM pads & rotors help?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by fenderpicks, Dec 1, 2013.

  1. Dec 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM
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    I have always had problem with my braking, regardless of what car i am behind the wheel of.

    However recently i have been really bothered with the way my Tacoma brakes.
    It feels like it is not stopping fast enough, I am not a crazy speeder that does 80 in a local street. (Probably around 60)

    But every time when i have a panic stop, i feel like i am going to hit the guy up front.

    And sometimes when i step on it too hard, i feel that the truck is just sliding across the pavement roads with locked rotors and pads.

    Is this freaking normal?

    I plan on taking my truck and try bed it in later tonight. Doing 6-7 "60-15 Mph" braking. And crossed my finger that it will get better.

    Truck currently have less than 3k miles.....
     
  2. Dec 1, 2013 at 4:07 PM
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    Haven't really heard of "bed it in", but after 3k miles the brakes should be well seated.

    Is the ABS kicking in ???
     
  3. Dec 1, 2013 at 4:28 PM
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    Unless you have just replaced the pads / rotors, it may not help that much.

    Bedding in new pads is important for maximum stopping. I have a route that I can drive that allows me some gentle driving until I can get to a spot for 3-4 hard 60 -10 decelerations (w/o stopping) and then a nice freeway drive home to cool the brakes.

    Just try to avoid any full stops after the 3-4 hard stops, or you may wind up with a brake vibration.

    Might want to change pads - I've had good luck with Hawk HPS in my cars ( maybe LTS for the Tacoma)
     
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    Might want to slow down too.
     
  5. Dec 1, 2013 at 7:26 PM
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    They are OEM Factory rotors and pads.
    I guess i will try bed them in later this week.

    I think i drive pretty slow already.... definitely not super fast / slow.
    There plenty truck drivers go MUCH FASTER than me.
     
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    3-5 harsh stops from 30mph to zero. Let them cool. You're good to go
     
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    Ceramic pads (stock) do not have very good initial bite (they need to be warm to bite their best) compared to a semi metallic.

    ABS on these trucks can be overactive and will lengthen the stopping distance.

    I hated the way my truck braked for a long time..

    I ended up trying a few things over the years and each step improved braking feel and distance.

    First was braided lines...... Improved feel.
    Then brembo blank rotors with hawk LTS pads....... Better stopping
    ABS kill switch..... Dramatically shortened stopping distance even under NORMAL driving.

    Finally..... EBC stage 5 rotors and pads.

    This combo of rotors and pads along with the abs kill switch and stainless steel braided lines make stopping much better.
     
  8. Dec 1, 2013 at 8:33 PM
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    I was thinking about stop tech slotted rotors and Hawk LTS pads.
    I don't mind slotted, but i don't trust drilled.

    How much dust does the yellow stuff create?
     
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    I dont see any diff from the hawks to the ebc in regards to dusting..... Someone else said they do create more dust and he noticed when he wiped his fingers across the rim surface. I have stock offroad rims and dont even see it honestly.

    I'd never run drilled either... Cracking is a common problem.
     
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    Thinking about going out tonight to do the bedding process, but i am afraid the OEM rotors and pads are not meant to be bedded.... and instead it might possibly glaze the rotors and pads....

    Does anyone know if that is possible?
     
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    Bed them how I suggested. Let them cool for a minute between hard applications. I've never had an issue.

    All pads and rotors should be bedded in.
     
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    Alright will do....
    But isn't it suppose to be 60 - 10 mph stop??

    Also i just learned about something called "BPV relocate"
    Is it possible that it will help me with braking power? I have a stock baja series taco....
     
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    I didn't like the way my truck stopped either, all I did was change the brake fluid to Blue racing fluid I had for my Audi. Lots better feel, mostly from bleeding out the old fluid I would bet, but I bet changing to DOT 4 or DOT 5 motorcycle fluid might give better feel and be more heat resistant.
     
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    Do these trucks have steel braided lines? If they don't, changing to those sure would improve feel.
     
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    I absolutely hate changing brake lines.....
    I have done it a few times, but each and every time I'm scared that the nut will strip and leak.
    Then it would be entire brake hard line replaced.

    And strangely on the tacoma brakes, they connect the rubber hose to a hard to the caliper.
    instead of rubber connecting to caliper....
     
  17. Dec 5, 2013 at 1:29 PM
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    i might be totally off base here.

    i thought you only bed in NEW brakes. like right when you install new pads and rotors. 3000 miles in..i think that ship has sailed. i am no brake expert. i only ever bed new brakes on my track car. never on a street daily driver. i just drive casual for the first few drives.
     
  18. Dec 29, 2013 at 2:53 PM
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    Race cars with high heat cyclic brakes need bedding.

    Not OEM daily driven tacomas.
     
  19. Dec 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM
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    Sorry but that does not apply to OEM daily driven non performance pads

    And if you read into the street portion of the link you probably posted yet didn't even read

    Key word is performance

    Also this

     
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    And you keep distinguishing "performance brakes" this thread is about OEM which do not need bedding.

    Manufactures of OEM brakes recommend 400-500 miles of normal braking "Avoiding" heavy braking.

    AKEBONO

    400 to 500 miles of moderate driving is recommended. Consumer should avoid heavy braking during this period.

    ATE

    400 to 500 miles of moderate driving is recommended. Consumer should avoid heavy braking during this period.
     

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