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CPAP off grid setups ?

Discussion in 'Outdoors' started by spitdog, May 11, 2021.

  1. May 11, 2021 at 7:48 AM
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    Curious about people’s battery solution, I have been doing research on this now and have kind of settled on a set up that I think is practical. I have a Resmed auto set 10 and was thinking about getting there DC to Dc converter adapter and then adding a 12 volt 35 AH deep cycle battery and a trickle charger.

    I would run this with no humidifier, pressure at 11.0 and I think I should get about 3 nights - 8 hr. each before needing charging. Does that sound right?

    Please share your thoughts and set ups. I have done a search and saw a lot of good info. Just checking to see the latest and greatest.
     
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    Good recall. I'm just using a 12v adapter that's made for the machine with a jump box that has a 12v plug on it. It was the cheapest solution I could find and it's dual use.

    I'd estimate a charged jump box would last two nights, but most of the boxes have a way to charge inside the vehicle.

    Another thing I discovered is that the CPAP requires something over 10 volts to work.
     
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    Yea, I think my Resmed machine is 24v. Thus the converter to notch up a 12 v. Bat. to 24v.
     
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    My Philips Respironics is 12v. I bought a car cigarette lighter cord and alligator clip cord for it. In my minivan, I run it off one of the 12v charging ports. In the Tacoma, I used a small lawn mower battery. It would run a couple nights and I never ran it out. I plan on buying a jump pack to use since it would be easier to recharge and I can charge my phone and GoPro with it too. My main issue is once it gets colder in the Fall, I freeze my nostrils trying to use it.
     
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    I have been looking into the jumps also, I have a goolo jump pack but I’m not smart enough with this electric math to keep me from frying my cpap machine, I don’t know if I need a fuse or I don’t know if it’s recommended to stay away from Lipo batts.
     
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    I don't think one of those little jump packs will work for this.

    If you get the actual 12v plug for the CPAP it'll do the transforming for you. I may have misunderstood what folks were saying with the 12 and 24v deal.
     
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    Whats the watt draw?

    Take the watt-hour for the device, multiply by 8 hours then add 20% on top. Then find a battery or power station to match that capacity.

    You could go easy and buy a jackery or similar, or you can build your own.
     
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    What did you do?
     
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    Found it.

    90W power supply unit with a max possible power draw of 100W

    upload_2021-5-11_12-4-49.jpg


    So you want a bare minimum of a 500 Wh supply, with an absolute overkill supply of 1000 Wh.

    Something like the Jackery 1000, or find yourself a 50Ah 12V battery as your supply.



    Edit: I dont run a CPAP, Im just an off-grid battery nerd. :D I just finished installing a 120 Ah LiFePO4 system in my camper, which gives me all kinds of juice to run my appliances.
     
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    I also just noticed that the power supply converts to 24V.

    A relatively cheap route to go is to take two of these guys and wire them up serially:

    https://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-P...1620753349&sprefix=40+ah+life,aps,664&sr=8-13

    That gives you 720 Wh and you can plug in your machine directly without losing energy to a transformer or converter. You just have to find a method to charge it during the day.
     
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    That’s a thought but If I need 2 of those batteries @ $170 a pop. Why not just buy a deep cycle battery that is rated for 12 v 35ah for $100.
     
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    You need about 70 Ah at 12V, or 35Ah at 24V. (Both yield ~800 Wh.)

    I just used lithium as an example, but yeah, lithium batteries are expensive. You could use a pair of cheap lead troller batteries too, but they're heavy. :D
     
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    I actually looked at that pretty hard a few days ago and it’s on my short list.Thanks
     
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    Yea, That’s the trade off......weight vs $.
     
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    My old Phillips was a 12V Machine, so a lighter adapter worked fine. However, not the water tank (humidified) took power to run. Hence it has a 100W power supply.

    I use a Res Med Airmini for bicycle touring. It's a 24V machine, so I carry a LiIon battery pack and my charger. No humidifier.
    24V battery (use CPAP power supply to recharge it).
    https://www.amazon.com/Pilot-24-Battery-AirMini-AirSense-Devices/dp/B07C8734MB

    The same thing can be used for car camping, but take the 12V to 24V DC TO DC Adapter.
    https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed-airmini-cpap-dc-converter

    The Airmini is great, a little louder than my home machine; the caveat is you need a humidity capture device. This allows you to recycle your moisture, so you don't dry out your nasal passages. Above 50% humidity, no issue. From 20% to 50% humidity, these work great. Lower than 20% (AZ desert), you need that water tank humidifier.

    ResMed AirMini™ HumidX™ Disposable Humidifiers - good for 30 days once opened.
    https://www.amazon.com/ResMed-HUMIDX-3Pack-Standard/dp/B076TGDZHN

    The old Jackery turned themselves off after six hours. Grrr. The new ones go 12 hours or so. It seemed they didn't realize CPAP users with electrical storms were a big buyer. My Jackery 250 will last a night on my CPAP & Humidifier. It's an older one that kept shutting down on me but came in handy during the Texas Icestomrs (four days without power). I ended up using the car battery. Those 100Ah Battleborn batteries are overkill but so tempting.


     
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    Thats what turned me off about the jackery is the reviews they would shut off after a certain point, haven’t look at them since. Now that you state that’s been corrected, I may need to take a 2nd look.
     
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    I think my gut feeling about a deep cycle battery and a trickle charger is the ticket. Even though those Lipo setups are tits,mostly because there compact and lighter...... @ $300 plus to sit in a draw for most of the yr, not so much. So for half that price with a deep cycle battery and there performance history. Bingo. If I was biking, backpacking, motorcycling the Lipo would be the clear winner.
     
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