**CLOSED**Northstar Battery - group buy 5.0**

I was part of a previous group buy and must say this is money well spent. The 27F is no joke and you certainly get what you pay for. Northstar FTMFW

 

How come no one is signing up?

 

Maybe bad timing with all the other sales coming up?

 

because it just started a few days ago

 

@ramonortiz55 is listed on a whole lot of divorce papers "reason for separation : ramonortiz and his group buys"

 

Damn I wish I wasn’t buying a house this month I want one

 

I have a '17 taco.

 

3rd gens come with 24f.
You can put a 27f with a tray from a 2nd gen ($40 on eBay).
Or you can fit a 31m with a pelfreybilt cage ($85 right now with their BF sale).

 

Found this very interesting. Maybe others like me with similar questions.

"I'm going to buy the battery with the most cold cranking amps I can find," say a lot of people when they decide to go battery shopping. Is that really the best way to pick out a battery? Oftentimes, the answer is, "no." To explain why, we should first explain exactly what cold cranking amps are. The Battery Council International has come up with a series of standardized tests that allow all battery manufacturers to list specifications for their batteries, based on the outcome of those standardized tests. One of the measurements that can be determined from those standardized tests is how many cold cranking amps (CCA) a battery can generate.

So how is this determined? Since "Cold" is in the name, they put a battery in a cold environment (0°F/-18°C) and measure the discharge load in amperes that a new, fully-charged battery can deliver for 30 seconds, while still maintaining terminal voltage equal to or higher than 1.20 volts per cell. Why did they pick a cold environment? Ask anyone who lives in a cold climate with a high-mileage diesel truck- it takes a long time to start some vehicles, whether that is due to high compression engines, extremely cold temperatures or both.

Measuring cold cranking amps gives someone a good idea of what they can expect from their battery in some of the worst conditions possible for starting a vehicle. Are there instances where someone may need to start a car in temperatures colder than 0°F or crank an engine for longer than 30 seconds or both? Absolutely. However, those are exceptions and not the rule. Even in those exceptional cases, the CCA rating for a battery will still offer someone a general idea of how their battery is designed to perform in those conditions.

So Should I Buy A Battery Based on the CCA Rating?

Even though some areas of the United States will dip down into sub-zero temperatures, most vehicles just don't see those types of conditions on a regular basis, if ever. With that knowledge, does it make sense for a Corvette owner to select a new battery because it offers a lot of cranking power in sub-zero temperatures? Probably not. What about a Duramax diesel owner in Florida? Same deal. Even if that engine requires more starting power than a typical engine, it probably isn't necessary to overbuy a battery based on cranking amps that may never be needed. A battery should meet or exceed the manufacturer's recommendations for cranking amps (or cold cranking amps), but in most cases, buying a battery with an extra 300 CCAs isn't necessary and will probably cost more money.

Why did CCA Ratings Become So Popular?

Part of the blame for this CCA craze can be attributed to the brands and manufacturers themselves. Just like sports car manufacturers brag about how much horsepower their engines have, battery brands tend to do the same thing with their performance attributes. Enough brands and companies have told people over the years that "more is better" when it comes to cold cranking amps, that a lot of folks now believe it always the case. While more may be better, it may not be necessary and it may be more expensive.

So What Is CA and MCA?

Many batteries typically also come with a cranking amps (CA) rating (also sometimes referred to as Marine Cranking Amps or MCA). This is the same test as the cold cranking amps test, except it is performed at 32°F (0°C). The cranking amps number will be higher than the CCA number, because of the warmer temperature, but you know what that means to a battery marketer- BIGGER IS BETTER!!! Once again, battery advertisements may praise the virtues of a battery that has more cranking amps than Brand X and some people will believe that is important, while ignoring that brand X has more than enough cranking amps for their four-cylinder engine and may cost 20% less.

What Specification Can We Brag About Next?

If the "bigger is better" mentality is the formula for selling more batteries, it only seems logical then, that battery marketers would seek out even more testing methods that would further enhance the image of their products. You've probably come across some ads that brag about "hot cranking amps" or "pulse cranking amps" that flaunt even higher numbers than the ratings for cold cranking amps or cranking amps. In fact, you might even catch one of our ads that references five-second bursts of power. The logic behind these claims is that the vast majority of vehicles on the road will never need their engines cranked for more than a few seconds. For that reason, it makes sense to share a specification that more accurately reflects what most folks see in real-world use.

The problem with those specifications, is that most companies and brands seem to come up with their own unique specs that make it difficult for consumers to compare across brands or manufacturers. That brings us back full circle to cold cranking amps. While it may not accurately reflect the real-world use of the battery, cold cranking amps does offer an apples to apples, industry-wide comparison, which all reputable brands will have readily available. Whether it is the most important specification when making a purchase depends on the application, but for most folks it is at least a starting point.

The caveat to all of this, is that these tests are performed on fully-charged, brand-new batteries. Every battery should be able to knock it out of the park when it's brand-new and fully-charged. The real test for most batteries is how they perform over time.

 

Does the 27F fit in the Pelfreybilt cage? Or is for the group 31 batteries? Do the cables fit without adding length or getting longer cables for both of these batteris 27F / 31M?

 

The cage is for the 31 group not sure about the cables I hope they reach

 

I have the Pelfreybilt battery cage and Northstar 31m and had to lengthen the accessory cable. There are different ways to do this but I just replaced the cable to a longer 18 inch bigger 2 gauge cable.

 

I have a 31 from the last group buy and it fits. It’s right, but the battery can be installed. I bought some cable extensions, but have not gotten around to installing them.

 

Free bump.

For those on the fence; Definitely an awesome group buy and well-priced for the capacity you get from the battery. Group 31M + Pelfreybilt cage in the stock position is a really good start to powering a fridge (when paired with with a solar panel / charge controller).

Hoping for a pre-Christmas miracle for funding. Dem bills, yo.

 

According to the specs, the 24F, which is the size for 2017 TRD OR with two package will not fit in the space. The battery platform in my Tacoma measures L-10.5", W- 6.75", and the Jbolt will go up to about 8.5".

So those of you using Northstar batteries, are you modifying or replacing the platform, getting a longer bolt, or what? The Optima Group 25 (720 CCA) fits perfectly. The Northstar 35 (740 CCA) will fit perfectly as well.

 

In for a 31m.

 

Can I get on the list for 31m

 

Free bump everyone needs a new battery

 

add me to the list for a 31m

 

Is the list updated? Bump for everyone to see! Time for a new battery!