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Camry upper intake manifold

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Tech708CC, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. Nov 7, 2022 at 6:52 AM
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    I installed a Camry upper intake manifold 6 weeks ago. It wasn't a direct swap but I was able to get it done with parts I had laying around in a couple hours. I have a goal I want to achieve with this truck in respect to power and 0-60 and quarter mile. I feel like this Camry intake is the door to making this goal happen.
    I will start off with the results
    1. Truck was slower 0-60 by .2-.3 tenths.
    2. Truck was the same et in the 1/8 mile but gained on average 1mph
    3. Truck got quicker and faster in the 1/4 mile. The et was down .2-.3 tenths and mph was up 2mph on average.
    From this we see that the Camry intake makes more rpm power and it is noticeable when driving. It is also a smoother power delivery.
    Now onto problems
    1. Proper AICS control. Camry intake aics uses vacuum so it is simpler. I ran it open, closed, and also with vacuum canister to delay opening but it needs a more precise control with a vacuum solenoid. I think this is one reason the Camry intake is off down low as I could not make a exact opening rpm.
    2. Every time i filled with fuel it would skip and misfire for a few minutes if the evap was trying to pull its initial vacuum on the fuel tank.
    It only happens for a few minutes and doesn't return. I was never able to log a actual misfire only the feeling of it from driving.
    Now onto a question for yall using vftuner.
    Have any of yall tried to shift a automatic past 7k and done a actual datalog?
    I have learned that anything past 7k and I mean exactly at 7k the kclv goes to 16.6 and the knock feedback goes way up for no reason. This makes it drop ignition timing 4-5 degrees and it will hold this situation until you stop the WOT run.
    Turn the shift rpm to 6998 and everything is fine.
    This intake does not stop pulling at 7k and I think getting it to shift at 7200-7300 will really help it.
    Any others experienced this?
     
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  2. Nov 8, 2022 at 7:17 AM
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  3. Nov 8, 2022 at 1:44 PM
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    Here you go.
    I put the truck intake back for some more comparison and also to do some mild work on the Camry intake. The change in performance is quite noticeable.
    Interstate passing or 40 roll that camry intake is just much stronger.

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  4. Nov 9, 2022 at 8:34 AM
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    Very interesting and good job executing!

    I wonder what the difference is between manifolds besides that contour near the TB. Runner length and/or shape? Size/volume?

    Wish there was an easy way to flow bench/test it.
     
  5. Nov 9, 2022 at 9:03 AM
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    I measured the ports and they are identical to size at the lower intake but the shape from the plenum is different.
    If I had to guess the Camry intake loses 5-6 inches of runner length and adds a bit of plenum volume.
    After switching back to the truck intake the difference is very noticeable.
    The only place the truck intake is better is below 3500-4000 at wot and then part throttle high load such as a tow situation.
    My recommendation would be...
    1. Any forced induction such as a procharger needs a Camry intake
    2. 2wd access cab or crew cab truck with stock tires would love a camry intake.
    3. 4wd needs to be stock tires unless you are regearing. If you were auto with 488 gears some 33s would be be fine.
    I would think a 2wd access cad with some 488 gears on stock tires would be a rocket.
    I have some 430s from a stock manual truck I need to put in mine.
     
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