California residents, is your tacoma registered as a commercial vehicle?

ah yes, that is certainly a likely possibility and would explain it.

 

For the extra money I'm paying in fees, I'm parking in loading zones now. I need the extra space anyways with the DC LB.

 

It would get thrown out. Since the law says all pickups are commercial vehicles, the fees aren't illegal. Unjust maybe, but illegal, no.

 

You have no choice to register it as commercial or non-commercial unless you have a shell on it. If you register it as non-commercial with the shell on, you have to leave the shell on at all times.

 

DC short bed is $87 extra, not $24. The weight of the double cab is around 4500 lbs.

 

All we need is a legal leg to stand on. If a judge were to here the case by some miracle and rule that the law is unjust then we would win. I know that judges aren't supposed to legislate from the bench but damit. If nothing changes, then nothing changes.

Question directed at no specific person

Why is it that in order for people to incite change in our country/state it is usually under the rubric of anger or fear.

 

My advise, keep contacting your state representative and get the law changed so this crap won't keep biting everyone going forward.

As for suing the state of California... 1st you'd have to be a citizen of the state or else they can claim 11th Amendment immunity. And if you are a California citizen then maybe you could sue them... I'm sure you're thinking one of these class action suites with millions of dollars in damages that basically only makes lawyers rich. Because you'll only individually be entitled to your damages, which would be a few hundred buck, maybe a grand or two. But the trouble is that it's a state law.

Anyway, that takes us back full circle to "CHANGE THE DAMN LAW".

So, let's start a thread for change the California Pickup law right here on TW and get people to write their legislature. We'll need a template letter and the contact info for all the state representatives for easy access. BTW- they give postal mailed letters 100%more street cred then emails.

Although I don't live in the state I'll be glad to start the fun Look for the thread in off-topc discussions. And get a lot of people to get involved. After all California is 1/5 the nations economy.. wow!

Cheers!

 

Don't park in loading zones!!!

OK, it's up to local municipal code but generally you can't park in them and if you can then not for long. I don't know where in the bay area you're at but check out Sunnyvale for example... http://www.qcode.us/codes/sunnyvale/view.php?topic=10-10_36-10_36_040&frames=on

 

Do you live in California? Make a difference..

TW members unite!!

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/71250-california-pickup-truck-dmv-commercial-vehicle-law.html#post1347705

 

wtf? really? is the dc short bed more then having a dc long bed?

 

Nope. DC Short Bed is only $24. Only the DC Long Bed (possibly 4x4 with towing package is required too) has the $87 fee. If you've got a DC Short Bed and are paying the $87, then they made a mistake. We just went over this on TN last month when my registration came due. The weights used to determine the fee are NOT your GVWR. Look it up at DMV, and you'll see they use a different method of weight rating for the fee.

 

All trucks in California have been registered automatically as commercial for decades now. Doesn't necessairly mean anything though.

 

Depends on the model of short bed. According to Toyota a double cab 4x4 short bed unladen weighs 4130 lbs (not the GVWR which is 5450) which puts me over the 4000 pound mark. If you're a Prerunner, the weight is 3920 which would put you under the 4000 pound mark (and it should be $80 not $87, my mistake):

Per the california vehicle code 9400b:

(b) For any motor vehicle having not more than two axles and
designed, used, or maintained as described in this section, other
than an electric vehicle, fees shall be paid according to the
following schedule:

Unladen Weight Fee
Less than 3,000 lbs..................... $ 8
3,000 lbs. to and including 4,000 lbs.. 24
4,001 lbs. to and including 5,000 lbs.. 80
5,001 lbs. to and including 6,000 lbs.. 154
6,001 lbs. to and including 7,000 lbs.. 204
7,001 lbs. to and including 8,000 lbs.. 257
8,001 lbs. to and including 9,000 lbs.. 308
9,001 lbs. to and including 10,000 lbs.. 360

 

It does mean something because it means you pay more for the registration than you would if it were not commercial. Commercial vehicles pay extra in weight fees that non-commercial vehicles don't pay. See the schedule above.

 

I pay less on my 2005 Tacoma than I do on my 2004 Sienna minivan and the van has normal plates .. Probably true though among vehicles of the same class.

 

That's what's getting me here. I'm guessing I'm wrong because the 2005 Tacomas were lighter than later years? Like I said, I was discussing this would a couple of locals on TN last month. Two guys close to me are both paying $24. One of them has a DC SB Prerunner (2007), the other has a 2005 DC SB Off-Road 4x4. That's how we figured it was the difference between short bed and long bed.

 

i register my,about four months ago,2008 doble cab and they did as a comercial.

 

I just got my renewal yesterday for my '06 DC Prerunner and the grand total is $263 which includes the $24 weight fee. What really got my goat is the $20 smog abatement fee. I have to pay for not having to smog my vehicle. What a crock of poo !!!

 

So here's how a guy over on TN that was moving to Calif got his weight under the 4000 lbs mark in order to save money each year (note: the first time he weighed in, it was 4300 lbs)...

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3061768&postcount=35