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Best suspension for softest, daily driving?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Doc1303, Mar 21, 2019.

  1. Mar 21, 2019 at 5:39 PM
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    Doc1303

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    Looking for softest/smooth riding suspension for my 2016 DCSB. Bought it used with 50k miles. Came with (previous owner installed) OME NitroCharger 2" lift suspension front and rear. I believe the fronts are 9000, don't remember the rears. Either way, it rides unnecessarily rough as I almost never tow or carry heavy cargo and do mostly long highway commutes on s***y pothole infested roads. I know I didn't buy a Lexus, but I'd sure like to get close to it's ride as possible. Spare your "u bought a truck suck it up buster" comments. I know you can get a softer ride than this.

    Any specific Bilsteins? Fox? Icons? Kings?
     
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    What type and kind of tires are on the truck. C load, E load ? How much tire pressure are you running?
     
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    What size/ply/air pressure are you running in your tires? Thats the first thing I would check/change.
     
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    Damn! beat me to it
     
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    HAD Ko2s 285/75/16 E rated at 36psi.

    Installed new 265/75/16 SL/P rated at 35psi a few weeks ago. Rides much smoother and softer but still nothing compared as my floaty 4th Gen 4runner that soaks up everything. That's what I'm aiming at, even if not achieved, would like to get closer to that level of plush/soft suspension.
     
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    The SR5 package seems to be the best riding, stock suspension.

    15" wheels with slightly larger than stock tires was a great ride.

    I miss my 1998 SR5 and now have a 2004 TRD. Both were 3.4 auto 4 x 4
    x cabs.

    The TRD package shocks can kiss my ass. As soon as these start to hint at failing, they are gone and it's getting basic shocks (I forget the factory name).
     
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    Are the 3rd gen factory SR5 shocks just as soft as your 98?
     
  9. Mar 21, 2019 at 5:51 PM
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    I wish I could answer. I can only offer what I found involving 1st Gen trucks.
     
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    Try 32-31 PSI front tires, 31-30 PSI rear tires.
     
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    I prefer Fox as they are valved more like the OE shocks. Mine rides great right out of the box . I run 30psi front and 29 rear on 34-1200-17 Maxxis Bighorns I cant remember for sure but I think they are D rated. No need at all for an E rated tire on a pretty much empty Tacoma. I don't think you could load a Tacoma safely to the point of needing an E rated tire. Theirs more to shopping for tires than some think. I got rid of E rated KO2's on my Ram 1500 because of how it rode and went to an SL rated that was a half inch shorter and an inch narrower than the 35-12.50-20s and 20 some pounds lighter per tire. What a difference that made in the ride.
     
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    I will have a stock TRDOR suspension minus leafs up for sale soon. Stock front coils, shocks (no top hats), rear shocks (shocks are Bilstein 4600). All said, like others have said - tires are likely culprit as E rated ride stiff.
     
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    My SR5 shocks are super soft and I run my PSI at around 28/29 cold. It's an extremely nice ride on and off-road. I wish they had a reservoir version lol
     
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    Go with Kings or Fox. Reason I say these is because of progressive valving and reputation. If you do might as well get the compression adjusters too and go way soft on the settings when driving on the road. Make sure to also get the lowest spring rate since you won’t be adding weight to it and don’t over preload it.
     
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    Which is softes OEM TRD OR or OEM SR5 shocks?


    @GoldenBrew sounds good. I am interested. BTW I have SL/P rated smaller tires now. Not E rated.
     
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    Mostly Stock for now, 265 75 16 Falken AT3W, Tinted fronts...
    SR5 are probably softer.

    Do you know which springs you’re running front and rear?

    Edit:it should say on top of the leafs, I’m not sure if it’s printed on the front springs
     
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    Are you sure? Everything I've read is confusing. A crowd of people say the SR5 is harsher/firmer and another crowd saying the TRD OR is harsher/firmer.

    I don't know what springs I have on my OME setup. I'll have to see if there's a way to check. But I am almost certain the previous owner installed springs for heavy capacity. Even jumping on the truck bed barely moves the rear suspension where my F150 would have bobbed up and down.
     
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    I can’t confirm the SR5 stiffness haha. Just a thought since the OR shocks are probably valved stiffer for tougher roads. I don’t mind the ride on my SR5. On stock tires it was really good. On my p rated wildpeaks it’s good at low PSI but I still prefer 35-38

    For the leafs, if the paint isn’t worn off it should say something like EL095R or EL096R if they are newer. EL096R are the heavy duty spring. I think the previous version started with a C.

    For the front they might have a tag that says anything from 885 to 888. If it says 886 then those spring will be too stiff for a truck with no bumpers. If the tag is gone I’m not sure how to identify.
     
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    My 2.0 Fox seemed a hair stiffer in the rear so I put my tool box in the back yesterday and what a difference in ride that made. Rides better than my 14 Ram 1500 4x4 with stiff ass digressive Bilstein 5100's at 1.4 "
     
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    The stock SR5 shocks are Hitachi so I would say they are going to be softer compared to the Bilstein. Bilstein will ride equally fine - just a higher quality shock than Hitachi. The load capacity btwn the SR5 and TRDOR is nil - only ride difference is the TRDOR will be firmer on off road and more "planted" (less roll and dive) on road. Front coil springs ??? doubt there is much if any difference since the trucks weigh about the same. OME regardless of shock or coil will ride stiffer and provide more lift than either stock SR5 or stock TRD. Most use OME for lift, off road, load capacity - so the truck is going to ride harsh compared to SR5 or TRD. If the previous owner added OME rear leaf springs (EL095R or EL096R) you will not be able to use any stock (SR5 or TRD) rear shock as they will not have enough travel - thus they will fail - only course to use stock rear shocks if they added rear leafs is to go to stock oem or equal rear leafs. ??? You may want to go down to the dealer and do a test drive in the SR5 and TRD and then consider.
     

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