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Aux Fuel Options Revisted.

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Bolsado, Nov 18, 2019.

  1. Nov 18, 2019 at 3:53 PM
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    Bolsado

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    I'd like to revisit and summerize additional fuel options as I have just started executing my Aux tank mod.

    My mod is taking shape on Expedition Portal and have started a new thread here too.

    https://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/1st-gen-taco-build.210552/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...taco-xtracab-overlander.639030/#post-22043722

    For discussions sake let's establish the goal as doubling the capacity thus your range based on ones driving style. That's 15 to 18 gallons depending on a 1st Gen configuration. Falling short or exceeding the goal and the tradeoffs will be considered in the discussion.

    Fact a gallon of gas wieght is 6lbs one water 8.4 beer is about the same as water but whiskey is lighter than water because of its content of ethanol (grain alcohol), which is 21% less dense than water.

    Gallon of whiskey weighs 7.7 pounds, which is 0.6 pounds (or 7%) less than a gallon of water. Trade-off #1 solved.

    Goal fuel wt. is 90-108 lbs

    Therefore let's also proceed from simple to complex.

    Keep It Simple Stupid Soultions KISS+

    Lawnmower jugs 5 gal or less

    Useful Threads on lawn mower jugs

    Pros
    Super cheap
    Grab and go
    Compliment other toys like generators and ATVs/ motor cycles

    Cons
    Not the safest
    Leak fumes or vapors
    Manual task
    Limited mounting options
    Low cool factor
    We all like jugs but more than 2 at a time your asking for trouble

    IMG_20190527_142506678.jpg

    Gerry Cans 3 will get you 15 and 4 will get you 20 gal @ 30 lbs plus wt. of container wt.

    rru43152 rhino rack double horizontal jerry can holder 00.jpg

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    Gen 1 gerry.jpg

    Estimated Cost 2019

    Using Summit Racing as source for new metal can is about $50 bucks so $150.

    Valuable Thread Links

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/gas-can-storage-in-the-bed.578091/
    Pros

    Cons


    Racing Fuel Jugs?

    Roto pax?
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/gas-cans-rotopax-vs-jerry-cans.429052/
    Portable boat deck tanks?
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/adding-an-auxillary-fuel-tank-how-to-advice-needed.435888/


    More complex semi permanent solutions
    Fuel cells?
    Bed tanks?
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/permanent-auxillary-fuel-tank.571779/

    Below deck marine tanks?
    Trailer Tanks?

    Complex permanent tanks
    Long range replacement tanks?

    Spare tire area tanks?

    Estimated Cost 2019
    Valuable Thread Links

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...spare-tire-area-parts-and-build-ideas.483271/



    Pros

    Cons

    Additional saddle tank?



     
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  2. Nov 18, 2019 at 4:02 PM
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    Have you seen this thread?

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...spare-tire-area-parts-and-build-ideas.483271/

    I like the idea of jerry cans, since doing an integrated system means you're carrying all that extra stuff around even on shorter trips.

    The spare tire tank is probably the best idea. I would think that if you spring a leak in your one HUGE tank, that'd be worse than springing a leak in one of your tanks.

    Simplest idea (aside form jerry cans) would be to just rig up a switch operated pump to transfer fuel from the aux into the main tank. Then you wouldn't be messing with any of the factory fuel lines. When your fuel gauge gets to half tank or so, flip the switch and transfer some fuel.
     
  3. Nov 18, 2019 at 4:17 PM
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    Thnx for reply,

    My goal in the discussion is to copy recent points, thread links t etc.. to the lead thread for future readers so they don't have to search multiple threads like I did. Plus I'll go back and forth in editing so thanks in advance for your patience.

    Great points
     
  4. Nov 19, 2019 at 3:50 AM
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    Please share your best mounting ideas for lawn mower jugs and Gerry Cans and I'll copy to the lead thread.

    Though this is a universal topic 1st Gen examples are preferred.
     
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  5. Nov 19, 2019 at 7:29 AM
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    hm, I don't want to carry around jerry cans all the time...

    I'd build a drawer system that houses the kitchen requirements but also have a rack for 4 jerry cans. The drawer system would also be removable once its not needed. Can leave it on a stand in the garage and lessen any load on the tacoma when I'm using it as a daily.
     
  6. Nov 19, 2019 at 8:17 AM
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    Great points

    See this thread concept 25 gallon deck tank in middle of bed, at the rear of the bed, side by side drawer sliders about 8 inch tall capped by 3/4 ply giving front below deck storage the full width of the bed.

    Removeable 43 gallons capacity.

    Right now thread is focused on the super cheap jug versions

    Maybe I should start separate threads for the different concepts

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fuel-cell-options.639137/#post-22051876
     
  7. Nov 19, 2019 at 8:21 AM
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    You have to think about the rest of your gear that will either be in the bed or if you have a rack system with your tent up top,etc...etc...etc..
     
  8. Nov 19, 2019 at 8:38 AM
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    Everything is a trade off or expense.

    Fuel is part of your gear no it's ands or butts.

    Want to carry the maximum gear that your bed will carry you trade-off the value of going further buying cheaper gas before your return trip to civilization.

    If you want to go to the end of the remotest road hammering miles until your bladder bursts and buy gas at $2.00 a gallon instead of $4.00 your going to have to leave some gear at home.

    If you want max of everything a Taco is not the right fit especially a gen 1.

    A gen 1 set up right is an affordable off-roader very close to a Jeep ferry's 2 passengers and enough gear for a month plus on the road.

    If you need more of all the trade offs to increase your comforts you need to move a size up.

    I'll trade-off fuel for a bunch of recovery gear I have never had to use and is just for looks on my rig.
     
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  9. Nov 19, 2019 at 9:00 AM
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    Sorry there I hijacked my own thread a bit. Too excited over my new idea and pissed I did not think of it sooner.

    Anyway we all love jugs. Some like them small, some just right and some like the big jugs.

    Some like them high some like them low.

    Some like plastic jugs some don't.

    Some like 1 at a time some like 2 and some like 4

    This is the thread for small juggs in any amount location or configuration you like.

    Let's us know the jugs you like.
     
  10. Nov 19, 2019 at 4:02 PM
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    No doubt, as long as I can keep 10 gallons on hand I'm good.
     
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