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Auto LSD vs locking diff

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by sumorus, Feb 2, 2019.

  1. Feb 2, 2019 at 2:06 PM
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    sumorus

    sumorus [OP] Get in loser, we're going hammer shopping.

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    Given that the SR5 models have an auto LSD that engages when traction control is turned off, I'm wondering how comparable that is to lockers found on OR etc.
    I've never wheeled this truck on anything crazy, and frankly, I dont plan to as of right now but I have hit some mud holes and never got stuck. With the auto LSD she also does snow lot drifts just as well as the next guy!
    Just looking for thoughts and insight from anyone with experience with both set ups!
     
  2. Feb 2, 2019 at 2:10 PM
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    shakerhood

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    All Tacoma's have the Auto LSD, the OR and Pro have the additional E Locker. Your truck is plenty capable but I imagine you could always add an air locker in the future if you need to have one.
     
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  3. Feb 2, 2019 at 2:15 PM
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    ABS style locking is basically a cheap way to stop wheel spin, it works but sucks when you really need power to the traction wheel.

    I had a Subaru with Xmode and it worked, but not as effective as my OR had with its locker.

    Biggest advantage is control, a locker with a tire in the air (any zero traction event) will take constant or limited power as the driver sees fit.

    If an Auto LSD tire is in the air, you're at the mercy of ABS as to how much power it will put down and how fast.
     
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    TireFire

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    This! Electronically controlled Auto LSD plus fully selectable locker is the best of both worlds
     
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    I know the auto lsd limits wheel spin. Does it also transfer power from slipping wheel to gripping wheel?
     
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    oconnor

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    I don't believe an "Auto LSD" is ever going to be as good as a locked differential. If I was getting a DCSB I would have gone OR since you can have either transmission. If you want an access-cab with a manual (in the USA) you are stuck.
     
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    It's not that smart. It applies braking to the spinning wheel, thus forcing power to the other side. Not much to it. I want to make a video of its performance on some ice so I can watch it in action.
     
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    That's kinda the same thing in simple terms. Torque goes the path of least resistance so that's the slipping wheel with no traction. Via applying brakes resistance increases and torque goes to the other wheel.

    Edit: there's also something about cutting throttle after a certain RPM (which lockers or mechanical LSD's of course don't do) but my 07 has no computer traction nannies so I'm not sure how exactly that kicks in
     
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    I'd rather have an auto locker than either. Too bad no one makes one. Had one in my Silverado and they're awesome. Locks and unlocks as needed almost instantly. No need to stop or alter your driving. Need traction and boom, it's there!
     
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    The good ol Gov bomb! Haha, fuck that thing
     
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    Heard of some issues but mine was flawless and that's all I cared about. Never a hiccup in the snow 6 months of the year and off and on dirt in the summer.
     
  12. Feb 2, 2019 at 2:51 PM
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    It also didn't howl like the tacoma! Haha
     
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    Interested in this topic.

    As a side note, the G80 locker in any GM I've owned has worked as advertised. Yes it clunks when it engages, but it does work well. I've had no issues with them.
     
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    Yeah they work as advertised but they sure don't like abuse
     
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    Not trying to argue at all. While I have not 'beat ' on mine, I have not exactly been gentle with them. I have had problems with the rear end in my 08, but it had nothing to do with the G80.

    Edit- axle bearings puked.
     
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    Hmm. Not sure which rear end I had. 98 Z71. Great truck. I never beat on it though. Just general camping and lots of snow driving.
     
  18. Feb 2, 2019 at 4:17 PM
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    I have the open diff now and would like some extra insurance in case I make a dumb decision. Thinking maxtrax. Probably won't need a locker but they are nice.
     
  19. Feb 2, 2019 at 4:26 PM
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    I'm personally not a fan of the controls that cut the throttle. Sometimes wheel spin can get you unstuck.

    Whenever I wanna go hoon around in the snow I hold the traction control button for a few seconds thereby disabling all nannies. I'm really glad Toyota made that an option. My sis has a JK Wrangler and even with the TCS off it'll still auto brake on occasion when sliding around a snowy parking lot.
     
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    That way you turn LSD off too and can get stuck with just one wheel spinning
     
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