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Anybody put a steering stabilizer on a 3rd gen?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Jkensrud, Sep 26, 2019.

  1. Sep 26, 2019 at 8:07 PM
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    Jkensrud

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    Wondering if it is possible to put a stabilizer on a 3rd gen with IFS.
     
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    Not grandpa's square body chevy
     
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    that went out with the idler & Pitman arm
     
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    Why? They make sense in certain situations on fixed axle, (usually they are simply used to mask bad geometry) but can’t think of one reason why IFS would need one. What are you trying to achieve?
     
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    after the bigger tires were put on it when I hit a bump or a divot in the road it grabs and pulls to either side the divot was on. alignment was done right and wheels were balanced right drives perfectly strait down the road until you hit a bump...
     
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    Sounds like “bump steer”. Fairly normal in lifted trucks. I don’t believe it’s possible to add a steering stabilizer on a vehicle with rack and pinion steering.
     
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    Do you have a lift?
     
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    yes
     
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    How much and what kind?
     
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    Spacer lifts compromises caster readings and can't be corrected back to factory specs. The caster ends up being closer to zero and can result in a bump steer issue.
     
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    With lifted steering rack trucks the enemy is the tie rod angles. You'll see them tilted down on any lift.

    Honestly, I've driven hundreds of lifted tacomas, I've never felt bad bump steer on any of them, on 33's or 35's.

    You likely have low caster, this is the cause of the sharp steering.
     
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    Only normal when you have shitty geometry. Most solid axle lifts create shitty geometry, it can always be fixed. But sometimes is Just too expensive depending on vehicle, so stabilizers are used to mask it. But IFS lift does not usually create shitty geometry that’s expense to fix. That’s why you don’t see stabilizers on IFS.
     
  13. Sep 26, 2019 at 9:16 PM
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    I also have horrible bump steer. With a 3.9 caster on pretty much both sides. Toe set on nearly 0.1 on both sides.

    I've pretty much figured it cant be fixed on mine :thumbsup:

    Edit: so explain this caster junkies!! :rofl:
     
  14. Sep 26, 2019 at 9:17 PM
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    Can you please explain this using. While I’m no fan, I simply can’t see how a spacer lift can compromise caster over any other way of lifting
     
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    Sounds like you either need more caster or you're just suffering the usual bump steer. If you do aftermarket UCAs, you can get an extra degree or two of caster which will greatly help stability at speed.
     
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    If you’re on 33 or larger with any kinda e rated (ie heavy) tire, you going to want to be in the very high 4s maybe even low 5s
     
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    I'm on 32s with C rated.
     
  18. Sep 26, 2019 at 9:22 PM
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    You’ve probably got some other issues going on then. Stabilizers only mask issues, they don’t actually fix the root cause.
     
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    Lower arm has a longer arc than the top which means the spindle changes angles as it cycles. Lifts force the truck into a different neutral place in the suspension cycle which can't be corrected fully.

    However, you are correct, no difference with spring or spacer lift in this case because they both do the same thing as far as a lift is concerned. The only real difference is total travel and performance.
     
  20. Sep 26, 2019 at 9:23 PM
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    Brand new LCA, brand new steering rack, brand new shocks and UCAs, brand new inner and outer tie rods, brand new bushing and BJs...... and personally I would never use a stabilizer. I came from jeep, they're useless
     
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