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Anti Squat AAL?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by SoulArmored, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. Jun 12, 2018 at 5:43 AM
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    SoulArmored

    SoulArmored [OP] Well-Known Member

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    2018 TRD OR with 5160 Rear Shocks. I've had 300-400lbs in bed twice now and it squats a surprising amount with this weight. I'm not really looking to lift it but realize that is a natural bi-product of adding stiffness when unloaded. Most AAL I find are about 2" lifts.

    I'm looking for an AAL to be able to put some weight in truck without squatting rear with lifting truck little as possible. Something I can throw a few hundred pounds in bed and it stay pretty neutral.
     
  2. Jun 12, 2018 at 5:49 AM
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    Not sure what you're asking.... you put rear shocks on your OR that are very similar to your stock OEM shocks. Expecting a different outcome with a load?

    AAL's even without the stock helper spring will "reduce" rear end sag. Shocks dont have anything to do with "sag", they are there to absorb bumps and such while driving why they are called shock absorbers. The springs hold the weight of the truck. Beefen them up they hold more weight without sag... truck only built for so much weight tho.
     
  3. Jun 12, 2018 at 5:53 AM
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    I simply listed the shocks because it's the only aspect of rear suspension that has been changed. I didn't change them for load capacity but just wanted people reading this to know what I'm currently working with. Shocks were simply an upgrade over factory.
     
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  4. Jun 12, 2018 at 5:56 AM
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    Understand... to help with sag you need stiffer springs.
     
  5. Jun 12, 2018 at 5:57 AM
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    I have this problem too and just ordered a set of heavy duty Dakar leaf replacements. It'll achieve 2" of lift with 600# in the back, no sag. I would recommend talking to Marie @HeadStrong Off-Road and see if they have anything that can keep you at a stock height.
     
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  6. Jun 12, 2018 at 6:01 AM
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    If you want zero lift but reduce the sag you have two options; (1) custom springs from Deaver or Alcan or (2) air bags.

    Sounds like you want air bags.
     
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  7. Jun 12, 2018 at 6:03 AM
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    The AAL is a temporary fix that i would not do again if you have he money to just get a better leaf pack. The stock springs on these trucks are weak and the AAL isnt going to give you any more load bearing. They also squeak like a mother f*****
     
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  8. Jun 12, 2018 at 6:06 AM
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    Not my experience. I haul shit all the time. I'd buy a full set of leafs sure.... AALs been on truck for 2 years.
     
  9. Jun 12, 2018 at 6:12 AM
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    Seems you also have a brand new taco. The stock springs will wear out very fast over the years and will actually Bend around the stiffness of the AAL. I’d go with an AAL if i had new springs for short term
     
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  10. Jun 12, 2018 at 9:42 AM
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    Thank you for your recommendation @fortis44 we truly appreciate it! :thumbsup:
     
  12. Jun 18, 2018 at 9:10 PM
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    I have a ‘18 DCLB with canopy and a drawers/sleeping platform in the bed for an approx weight of 300-350 lbs that’s in there all the time. Rear end on stock suspension squatted down about 1”. I haven’t decided on lift yet (probably do that this fall when I have more time) but I’m going to install a pair of Sumosprings to support the rear end in the meantime.

    https://www.amazon.com/SSR-610-40-S...F8&qid=1529381010&sr=8-2&keywords=sumosprings

    They should be here mid-week and I’ll get them installed once they show up.
     
  13. Jun 19, 2018 at 4:06 PM
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    Great recommendation on the Sumosprings!

    I have the same truck as you do and am considering a canopy. Would you tell me which canopy you bought and if you would buy that again if you had it to do over again.

    I'm thinking to make a bed platform as well filling the entire bed using those lips level with the wheel wells. (hoping two might fit on the bed). When you say drawers, what do you mean? How great it would be to be able to put some sort of drawers under the platform that can pull out far to access the storage.

    thanks much!
     
  14. Jun 19, 2018 at 4:16 PM
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    another for Sumosprings. i have them on my truck and there's zero squat.

    we also have them on our 2017 Tacoma work trucks. however, those have the taller Sumos that add about 5/8" of lift.
     
  15. Jun 19, 2018 at 6:33 PM
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    Just add sumo springs, put them on about a month ago and have hauled over 800 pounds on Several occasions and no sag at all...these things work great...mine didn’t lift the back end either...they fit nicely under the frame
     
  16. Jun 19, 2018 at 6:35 PM
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    Exactly what I installed..
     
  17. Jun 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM
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    Good to know!
     
  18. Jun 19, 2018 at 7:10 PM
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    Are you refering to me? I put a Snugtop Rebel on my ‘18 DCLB. My previous truck was a Gen 2 ‘08 DCLB and I also had a Snugtop on that truck. Seeing as it never let me down it was an easy choice to go with the same brand again.

    As far as drawers, it’s basically a box that fits between the wheel wells with two bed length drawers that are subdivided into smaller compartments to keep my stuff organized. It used to be installed in my ‘08 and I transferred it to the ‘18 last weekend. Perfect fit, not adjustments needed. The drawers are friction fit, no sliders. Two winters ago I built a similar drawer system for my ‘15 Sprinter Van and used skateboard ball bearings as sliders. The ball bearings work really well as sliders, and if I ever get the time/urge I’ll rebuild the drawer system in my Taco using the same method.
     
  19. Jun 20, 2018 at 5:06 PM
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    Thanks much for the info!
     

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