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All season vs all weather

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by hazard2600, Dec 10, 2023.

  1. Dec 10, 2023 at 2:59 PM
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    hazard2600

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    I never thought I’d post a tire question but I’m having a hard time finding any good comparative data between ats and all season tires.

    I have 33 bfg k02s on my ‘09 dclb and I love them. But I’m doing a lot less off roading than I use to and am doing more driving with the family and a camper.

    Anyone out there switch from bfgs to an all season? What are your thoughts on your choice?
     
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    To make it more clear there's tons of variants, but I think you're leaning towards an all season highway touring, sometimes called H/T

    BFG's and other severe service tires are typically softer to comply with terrain and weather requirements.

    H/T tires have one purpose, pile on the miles. Typically they are harder compounds and perform worse in cold weather.

    Examples

    https://generaltire.com/tires/light-trucksuv/grabber-hts60

    https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/geolandar-h-t-g056

    My big thing is, with hauling I prefer using a heavier tire like your BFG. You don't need 10 ply tires but I like the durability and loaded characteristics of the 10 ply.

    The HT tire will yield much better road manors and fuel economy. It will just wear faster with the camper, a mild point.
     
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    Normshark

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    All season is a bit of a misnomer. They are decent for spring summer and fall but marginal in the winter. All weather (for example the Michelin Cross Climate or Firestone WeatherGrip) are designed to handle winter conditions and have the mountain emblem on the side wall, but tend to look more like a snow tire. Something like the Michelin LTX M/S2's are highly rated, ride well, haul well, wear well and are a good all purpose tire. The HTS60's are decent (my brother in law has them on his Tacoma and commutes all year with them). The Cooper AT3 4s' are another choice giving you the looks of an A/T with the road manners of an all season tire. I have them on my truck, but I still use winter tires because, I live in winter.

    Cheers.
     
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  4. Dec 12, 2023 at 2:47 AM
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    KO2 is said to be bad in general, as well as winter conditions.

    I think all season is a car term. Only seen a similar name be all terrain on trucks. Some are rated for ice some are not. But that’s not as good as an actual winter tire if you need it.

    that being said, Michelin LTX has a good reputation if that’s what you’re looking for.

    AT tires may not be as good at off roading as other tires

    LTX might even come on 4Runners. But it’s typically not the biggest meatiest tire nor aggressive looking tread pattern some people want.

    I’m not sure when load comes into play for a camper. I know E is probably important for a diesel dually but those pull a lot more. vs load C or in the middle, load D

    I’m sure many have towed on C before, but a moving trip with Uhaul trailer up to 6x12
     
  5. Dec 13, 2023 at 7:42 AM
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    The Michelin Defender LTX is hard to beat for a HT tire and from what I've read, give most AT tires a run for their money on wet and/or snowy roads. You might even find some slight MPG gains over AT tires (KO2) and they wear well and last forever. I've run them for years on various tow rigs and find them to be an awesome tire.
     
  6. Dec 13, 2023 at 7:57 AM
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    CTSpruceMica

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    I'm on my second set of Michelin LTX and they're a fabulous tire, highly recommended by me FWIW.

    As far as all weather, we've got the Michelin Cross Climate on our Odyssey and it's the best non-truck tire we've ever used. I'd put them on any car...do everything well though did take a minor gas mileage hit
     
  7. Dec 13, 2023 at 8:39 AM
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    X2 on the Cross Climate. Our Outback is absolutely unstoppable with them on and they still have a 60k mile warranty. Michelin is one of the few manufacturers to design tires with worn tire performance in mind, too. I saw something where they tested the Cross Climate with 50,000 miles on it and it was something like 90% as good as the performance of a new set, which the reviewer claimed as remarkable. From my experience, I'll buy another set and not look at much else when the time comes.
     
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