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Alignment Cam Delete - Which ones?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by steveo27, Sep 17, 2024.

  1. Sep 17, 2024 at 10:09 PM
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    steveo27

    steveo27 [OP] Ask me about my weiner

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    The same shit everyone else has.
    Gettin tired of the LCA cams getting bumped out of alignment so I’d like to just delete them.


    The truck has stock LCAs and SPC UCAs.

    The LCAs are pushed as far toward as possible and the caster and camber are both set with the UCAs.

    I don’t need any adjustability at the LCAs and would like to replace the factory alignment cams with a non adjustable cam.

    The factory tabs are in good shape, and I plan on reinforcing them instead of replacing them at the moment.

    There’s a buncha different kits out there on the market that all seems to be pretty comparable.

    Bison OR, Solo Motorsports, Poly Performance, KP Off-road, ect.

    What kits are you guys using? Complaints? Criticisms? Ect?
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2024
  2. Sep 19, 2024 at 3:34 AM
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    ClassyTacos

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    I would replace the factory tabs as well. You're in there just do it. For tabs TC or DK. For the cam bolt eleminators tons of options which ever one you fancy. I went with the 333 Fabrication eleminators and DK tabs. Been alignment free for over a year with many trips.
     
  3. Sep 19, 2024 at 7:57 AM
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    I need to look into this. It’s annoying coming off trails and finding my steering wheel is a little more crooked.
     
  4. Sep 19, 2024 at 8:03 AM
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    I have KP Off Road and no complaints. I only have the bolts and cams, not the tabs installed. Those are stock and I’ve not had an issue with them bending those over. And yep, have been off roading over lots of rocks.

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  5. Sep 20, 2024 at 7:04 AM
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    I run the 333 one's as well. If you have an adjustable UCA like SPC, Dobinson's Billet... then I think that they work pretty well. If you have non-adjustable UCA's then the octagon shaped ones would be better to dial it in right. I max the caster on the inside bolt, then do whatever setting (+- or Neutral) you need for the front bolt and then fix the camber on top with an angle finder. Range should be -.5 to +.8 per Accutune.

    I use a laser meter to do Toe and just try and toe it in a tiny bit. (1/16").

    Drives pretty good. not perfect, but close enough for me rather than getting an alignment 2+ times a year or being denied an alignment with shops bc they don't know what they are doing or try and push services on you that you don't need.

    I was denied an alignment once at rep 4x4 shop in Denver bc I had a torn outer Tie rod boot on a month old tie rod and they couldn't even offer to slip a replacement on in its place, or call me to ask what I wanted to do. Instead told me that my tie rods had play which they didn't. (All Brand New).
     
  6. Sep 20, 2024 at 7:54 AM
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    The same shit everyone else has.
    Yep.

    I fine tune the alignment at the UCA since it’s adjustable.

    Doing the alignment at home has become a piece of cake. I’m just tired of having to do it so often because no matter how tight the alignment cam hardware is, it still moves.

    I mark em with a paint pen and it’s still annoying
     
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  7. Sep 24, 2024 at 10:19 AM
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    That is a total pain. And the system shouldn't be reliant on over-torqued cam bolts to maintain the position of the LCA. That's just not how bushings work, even the dumb stock ones probably don't work well over-torqued. It's better to rely on normal force than friction to locate the LCA.
    I've had the Poly Performance Tacotabs on a 2nd gen and now a 1st gen along with modified control arms. Both were able to get in spec despite the limited adjustment resolution. Since you have adjustable uppers they should work well. They're a little more work to align initially (swapping locating washers vs rotating them in place) but maxing out the caster and setting camber to the center setting is where most seem to end up. I'd also recommend welding the backs of the tabs to keep them from smashing over. That system worked great on my 2nd gen with 37s and 35s.
     
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  8. Oct 11, 2024 at 11:41 AM
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    KP Off-road here. Went with their whole kit, tabs and all.
     
  9. Jan 14, 2025 at 12:18 PM
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    steveo27 [OP] Ask me about my weiner

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    The same shit everyone else has.
    Bumping this back up for more input
     
  10. Jan 21, 2025 at 6:25 AM
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    TacoTuesday603 I welded it helded

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    KPO has the best fit I have seen. Comparing this to Bison and tacotabs at least.
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